Bard spell for an arcanist?


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The Exchange

Specifically I’m trying to be able to prepare good hope as an arcanist spell.

So far, I’ve come up with “be a Samsaran” but I’m hoping for other ways.

Scarab Sages

Ring of Spell Knowledge IV would do it, if your GM believes it works for an Arcanist. There's a fair amount of ambiguity about it. You would have to cast it out of a 4th level slot.


The pathfinder savant or daivrat PrCs are other possibilities. I don't think a ring of SK would cut it, an arcanist isn't technically a spontaneous spellcaster.

Given what you'd likely need to pay for this, contagious zeal or multiple castings of heroism might be a relatively good option. The untold wonder spell and/or the encouraging spell metamagic might help.

Edit: if being able to affect the targets with good hope rather than preparing the spell might be enough, there are magic items - a wand of good hope, a suzerain scepter or a custom staff if those are available.

The Exchange

Found another complex way to do it but not as "costly"

Worship a deity with the Chaos domain, specifically the Revelry subdomain.

At 10th level or above, an arcanist can take/retrain to the Arcane Discovery arcanist exploit. As the Arcane Discovery, take Faith Magic. Choose good hope and I can prepare it in a 4th level slot.

I was hoping to do it a lot sooner than 10th level, though.

I am looking to actually get it on my spell list because of the many things you can do to a spell known/prepared but not with wands. I prefer good hope to heroism specifically for the damage bonus.


Contagious zeal has a damage bonus among other things, and being a 3rd level sorc/wiz spell an arcanist can get it at 6th level. You can't cast it much in advance but you should only need to cast it once in a combat.


Good hope is a nice spell, but is there a reason you're wanting that spell over other options available to the arcanist?

The Exchange

It’s not just good hope. I’m making a buffing arcanist (brown-fur transmuter) and entering the Magaambyan Arcanist prestige class (which gives access to Druid spells) I wanted to add some of the really good bard-only buff spells to my spell list to top it off.

Ideally I was looking for something like Fey Spell Versatility or Unsanctioned Knowledge, but I’d settle for a way to add one or two spells. Good hope is the example because it’s the first one to spring to mind, and also one of my favorite bard spells.


Spell research. Or pick up Hollis's lucky rock.

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