What's the range on moving your Flaming Sphere? And can you Concentrate on the same turn you cast?


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Hello, a couple of questions if I may, since I've just ran my first playtest game(homebrew one-shot adventure, level 3)

I am aware that to keep a spell going on further rounds you have to use the Concentrate On Spell action, but if I cast a Spell like Flaming Sphere, which deals damage when it appears and on the same turn I still have an action, can I concentrate to deal damage again? Where in the rules does it say I can't?

Also, this a spell that is worded peculiarly. It has a 30 foot range, which is pretty straight-forward, I choose a point in that range, the sphere appears, I deal damage. But the next time I concentrate on the spell I can move it to any point WITHIN RANGE. Does that mean that I can move the sphere up to 30 feet from the SPHERE'S actual location or from mine, the spellcaster? I mean, could I just double Stride and move the Sphere something ridiculous like 110 feet from where it was when my turn began?


You cannot concentrate on a spell the same turn you cast it. Says so in the spell description:

Quote:
You can’t Concentrate on the Spell to move the sphere during the round you create it.

30' range is "from you."

If it were "from the sphere" then Spiritual Weapon could be cast 120 feet out, then move to a spot 240 feet away from you, then 360 feet away. Which is clearly not the intent.

p196 wrote:

Some spells allow you to directly target a creature or

object. The target creature or object must be within the
spell’s range
, and you must be able to see it (or otherwise
perceive it with a precise sense) to target it normally.


Draco18s wrote:

You cannot concentrate on a spell the same turn you cast it. Says so in the spell description:

Quote:
You can’t Concentrate on the Spell to move the sphere during the round you create it.

30' range is "from you."

If it were "from the sphere" then Spiritual Weapon could be cast 120 feet out, then move to a spot 240 feet away from you, then 360 feet away. Which is clearly not the intent.

p196 wrote:

Some spells allow you to directly target a creature or

object. The target creature or object must be within the
spell’s range
, and you must be able to see it (or otherwise
perceive it with a precise sense) to target it normally.

I am sorry. I am really tired(it's 01:30 a.m. here) and I missed the obvious "You can't concentrate on this spell" message(which is cool, because if it's not there for I spell we can assume that you can).

I still however don't see how perfectly clear the second part is. I get that it's pretty obvious it's not the design intent, but my problem is with the way it's presented(this is the kind of thing we should report in a playtest). The way it's written I could only argue that the range of movement originates from the Sphere by using common sense(and some players lack it).

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