Hat of disguise issue

[Darrell Impey UK]

If an aasimar ("Native Outsider: Aasimars are outsiders with the native subtype") puts on a hat of disguise, meaning that they "cannot change your creature type (although you can appear as another subtype)", the world is pretty much their (extra-planar) oyster, yes?

[MrCharisma]

Interesting ...
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[Taudis]

Yup, you can appear as any Outsider within the dimension restrictions on Disguise Self. Not really sure how that makes the world their oyster.

[David knott 242]

Taudis wrote:

Yup, you can appear as any Outsider within the dimension restrictions on Disguise Self. Not really sure how that makes the world their oyster.

There is certainly more variety in the appearances of medium outsiders than in those of medium humanoids.

[Rajnish Umbra, Shadow Caller]

More variety, yes, but outsiders usually also draw more attention, and the hat's DC is horribly low. The disguise will fail the moment someone gives you a careful look.

[Taudis]

Rajnish Umbra, Shadow Caller wrote:

More variety, yes, but outsiders usually also draw more attention, and the hat's DC is horribly low. The disguise will fail the moment someone gives you a careful look.

Letting a creature save for giving a closer look pretty much entirely defeats the point of Disguise Self. I'd only let a creature do that on sight alone if they had already bypassed the Perception check to see through the disguise. You'd have to touch the Disguised creature to get the Will disbelief without bypassing the Disguise check first IMO.

Disguise Skill wrote:

If you don’t draw any attention to yourself, others do not get to make Perception checks. If you come to the attention of people who are suspicious (such as a guard who is watching commoners walking through a city gate), it can be assumed that such observers are taking 10 on their Perception checks.

You'd probably get that take 10 Perception check from everyone since you're drawing attention to yourself. That'd still require them to beat your Disguise check.

[David knott 242]

A Hat of Disguise usually works best if you go for the appearance of something that draws less attention than whatever you actually are.

My summoner's eidolon generally used this item to assume the form of an aasimar, for example.

[Azothath]

the way the spell is written, yes.
I'd stick to other native outsiders like suli, ifrit, oread, tiefling, etc to blend into the local population. Looking like a fire elemental with no heat or burning sounds or smoke is going to give it away faster. Subtlety is your friend.

[Cevah]

The petitioners of Elysium (the chosen) manifest as idealized versions of their mortal bodies; as a result, Elysian societies often strongly resemble the Material Plane realms from which their member petitioners hail.

Now you can look like anybody, not just humanoids.

/cevah