| Finwe 74 |
One of my players took this mythic ability, "impossible speed" that states that:"Your base land speed increases by 30 feet. In addition, if you expend one use of mythic power, for 1 hour your base land speed increases by 10 feet per mythic tier."
I Was wondering, if I give my group a Spherewalker staff (2 charges x Air walk) dose this spell allow him to use"impossible speed" even if he's flying? I mean air walk says :"The subject can tread on air AS if walking on solid ground. Moving upward is similar to walking up a hill. The maximum upward or downward angle possible is 45 degrees, at a rate equal to half the air walker's normal speed."
I know air walk says AS if....and this should means that is not like to be on actual ground by the way I'm curious to know your opinions about it. Land speed means you HAVE to be on the ground? why impossible speed doesn't say just speed or movement but ground speed? it's the first time I find this specific "base land" word so I don't want make mistakes.
| mdt |
The AS IF is not the important part.
The important part is 'at a rate equal to half the air walker's normal speed'. That indicates the speed of air walking is their base speed (else no reason to limit it to half for walking up or down).
Impossible Speed increases their base land speed (which I agree, is one of the few places they use it) to refer to Base Speed, which is their normal walking speed.
So yes, Air Walk would use their base speed, which as modified by Impossible Speed, is for a normal human, 60 ft.
Anything that increases their base speed increases their flying speed, be it boots of striding, monk speed bonuses, barbarian increases, feats, etc. Note the Run feat would also increase their movement while running on air (x5 instead of x4).
| mdt |
Other things that reference 'base land speed'
Racial Stat blocks : Racial stat blocks, those that describe the race, like Human in core book, reference 'Base speed of ## on land', which is 'Base Land Speed'
Horseshoes of Speed : they increase the animal's base land speed by 30 feet; this counts as an enhancement bonus.
Combat Chapter : Tactical Speed -> Your speed while unarmored is your base land speed.
Sky Druid Archetype : At 13th level, a sky druid gains a fly speed equal to twice her base land speed (good maneuverability).
Hunter Stag Focus : The creature gains a 5-foot enhancement bonus to its base land speed. This bonus increases to 10 feet at 8th level and 20 feet at 15th level.
Barbarian Power : Elemental Blood, Greater (Su): While raging, the barbarian gains a special movement type or bonus based on her chosen element: acid grants a burrow speed of 30 feet, cold grants a swim speed of 60 feet, fire grants an increase of 30 feet to her base land speed, and electricity grants a fly speed of 60 feet (good maneuverability).
So actually, I was mistaken above, they reference it as Base Land Speed all over the place, not just in Mythic. That was just the first half dozen links I found using the term.
| Hendelbolaf |
Like mdt said, whatever your base land speed is or becomes, that is your Air Walk speed as well. So even Haste would affect it.
Just remember that it takes a little more to climb in altitude with Air Walk so there are some disadvantages to Fly but it is still a great spell.
| Finwe 74 |
Other things that reference 'base land speed'
Racial Stat blocks : Racial stat blocks, those that describe the race, like Human in core book, reference 'Base speed of ## on land', which is 'Base Land Speed'
Horseshoes of Speed : they increase the animal's base land speed by 30 feet; this counts as an enhancement bonus.
Combat Chapter : Tactical Speed -> Your speed while unarmored is your base land speed.
Sky Druid Archetype : At 13th level, a sky druid gains a fly speed equal to twice her base land speed (good maneuverability).
Hunter Stag Focus : The creature gains a 5-foot enhancement bonus to its base land speed. This bonus increases to 10 feet at 8th level and 20 feet at 15th level.
Barbarian Power : Elemental Blood, Greater (Su): While raging, the barbarian gains a special movement type or bonus based on her chosen element: acid grants a burrow speed of 30 feet, cold grants a swim speed of 60 feet, fire grants an increase of 30 feet to her base land speed, and electricity grants a fly speed of 60 feet (good maneuverability).
So actually, I was mistaken above, they reference it as Base Land Speed all over the place, not just in Mythic. That was just the first half dozen links I found using the term.
Yes base land speed is just a way to say base speed x1 and probably they use it in some cases to be sure that players don't use that kind of speed for other types of movement (as climbing swimming ecc)