Question about Ranger's "Twin Parry" Feat

[Fiziks]

I'm not sure if this should go in the Class forum or feat forum because it relates to both, but it is a feat specific to the Ranger.

The Twin Parry Feat states,

"You use your two weapons to parry attacks. If neither weapon is agile or if either weapon has the parry trait, you gain a + 2 circumstance bonus to AC..."

It is the "If NEITHER weapon is agile" that I have a question about. It seems to me that having agile weapons IMPROVES your chances of parrying. Should the wording be, "If EITHER weapon is agile..." or "If BOTH weapons ARE agile..." ?? Both main gauche and clan dagger have both the parry trait AND the AGILE trait. For a parrying weapon, don't you want something that you can move quickly?

Any thoughts? Has this already been discussed?

[Blave]

I noticed this when I first read the feat. Takes a bit to wrap one's head around, but I think it makes total sense as written.

Agile weapons are usually low weight and don't have the size and mass (or "Bulk" if you will) to block attacks as effectively as non-agile weapons. It's like a light shield giving a smaller AC bonus than a heavy shield.

Weapons with the parry trait are specifically built to parry while having low Bulk and circumvent this restriction.

[Fiziks]

I was hoping to do a Goblin ranger build for the 4th level playtest scenario. I was hoping to use two dogslicers and take the twin parry feat as I thought it would work thematically for a goblin. Instead I guess I'll have to use a rapier and main-gauche.

I guess that does free the character up to take Very Sneaky or Rough Rider ancestry feats instead of Weapon Familiarity (Goblin) ancestry feat.

Too bad. I think it's another miss on paizo's part.

[Draco18s]

Fiziks wrote:

The Twin Parry Feat states,

"You use your two weapons to parry attacks. If neither weapon is agile or if either weapon has the parry trait, you gain a + 2 circumstance bonus to AC..."

It is the "If NEITHER weapon is agile" that I have a question about. It seems to me that having agile weapons IMPROVES your chances of parrying.

Remove the "or" statement from the rule text:

"You use your two weapons to parry attacks. If neither weapon is agile you gain a + 2 circumstance bonus to AC"

(Then remember that "neither" means "not either")

Its still badly worded, but its correct.