Serial Killer Vigilante and Twisting Fear


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I am planning out a Dazzling Display build around Violent Display and I saw the Twisting Fear vigilante talent and wondered how it would interact with the Serial Killer archetype.

Serial Killer:
A serial killer must choose the stalker specialization. Her hidden strike is considered equivalent to a sneak attack with the same number of dice for the purpose of meeting prerequisites or using abilities that depend on sneak attack.

This alters vigilante specialization.


Twisting Fear:
Whenever the vigilante causes an opponent to gain the shaken, frightened, or panicked condition, that opponent takes an amount of nonlethal damage equal to the vigilante’s reduced hidden strike damage, as the stress wears upon its body. A creature can’t take damage from twisting fear more than once per round. Panicked creatures that take damage from twisting fear are too winded even to scream as they flee in terror. Only a stalker vigilante can select this talent.

I would interpret this in one of 3 ways:
1) I would use the d4s that a regular stalker vigilante would use.
2) I would use the normal d6s from sneak attack.
3) I would not be able to select the Twisting Fear talent.

Personally, I'd think it's the first, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was number 2. I'd be kinda surprised if it was the third.


Its still the d4's but it allows you to use feats and rogue talents that affect sneak attack.


The only thing that serial killer does is let you count hidden strike as sneak attack for prerequisites (usually this would be for gaining a rogue talent). It doesn't give you sneak attack separately from that. You don't have a d6 sneak attack of any kind.

So Serial Killer works for Twisting fear exactly like a regular stalker since your hidden strike is exactly like that of a regular stalker.

It would use d4s.


Dave Justus wrote:

The only thing that serial killer does is let you count hidden strike as sneak attack for prerequisites (usually this would be for gaining a rogue talent). It doesn't give you sneak attack separately from that. You don't have a d6 sneak attack of any kind.

So Serial Killer works for Twisting fear exactly like a regular stalker since your hidden strike is exactly like that of a regular stalker.

It would use d4s.

Sweet! Thanks!

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