Was the Titan Fighter effected by the Titan Mauler Errata's?


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Question is that: I'm curious about taking a one-level dip into the Titan Fighter to used Oversized Two-handed weapons. However, there are a few people pointing out that its not plausable because the Titan Fighter was effected by the Titan Mauler's Errata - stating that any Medium Character CANNOT wield 2-handed weapons that are oversized for them.

Considering that the Titan Fighter archetype for the Fighter trades both their Level 1 Bonus Feat and their Armor Training for abilities that specifically call out on "Oversized 2-handed weapons", was this archetype missed by the Errata team and now a dead Archetype? There haven't been any changes made to this Archetype in any of the books, and no official announcements on changes as far as I've seen. I normally don't post complaints, but considering the Fighter trades a lot for almost nothing in exchange other than CMD while wielding oversized weapons... That seems like a rather large slap in the face.

For reference: [LINK!]
Titan Fighter is an Archetype for the Fighter Class in the Giant Hunter's Handbook.

Giant Weapon Wielder (Ex):
At 1st level, a titan fighter can wield two-handed melee weapons intended for creatures one size category larger than himself, treating them as two-handed weapons. He takes an additional –2 penalty on attack rolls when using an oversized two-handed weapon. This ability replaces the fighter’s 1st level bonus feat.

Incredible Heft (Ex):
At 3rd level, a titan fighter becomes more skilled at wielding weapons intended for creatures one size category larger than himself. The penalty on attack rolls for using such weapons is reduced by 1 when using oversized two-handed weapons. At 7th level and every 4 levels thereafter, this penalty is reduced by another 1 (minimum 0). This ability replaces armor training.

Unstoppable Momentum (Ex):
At 5th level, a titan fighter gains a +1 bonus on combat maneuver checks and to CMD while wielding a weapon sized for a creature of a larger size category. At 9th level and every 4 levels thereafter, this bonus increases by 1. When wielding oversized weapons, the titan fighter can attempt to bull rush, drag, overrun, reposition, and trip creatures up to two sizes categories larger than himself. This ability replaces weapon training.


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Eh? Both titan maulers and titan fighters can wield two-handed weapons for creatures larger than their size. It's right there in the ability descriptions (post-errata, for titan mauler). I'm not sure I understand the objection.

(By the way, I don't think I ever got around to thanking Jason Nelson for his work on the subject--thanks, Jason!)


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"At 1st level, a titan fighter can wield two-handed melee weapons intended for creatures one size category larger than himself, treating them as two-handed weapons."
So, they already have all they need to work.


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i believe the confusion is that there was a FAQ that said Titan Maulers could not wield two-handed weapons for creatures larger than their size because it originally didn't say they could. i believe Titan Fighter always had this language, though, and since then, there has been an errata adding it to Titan Maulers as well.


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I see. I assumed that we were talking about a post-errata world based on the original post.

Either way, you're good to go for your dip, TheMonkeyFish. : )


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Hey guys, thanks for the help! I was able to find the FAQs they were referencing from March 2013 and compared them to the August 2015 Errata. Damn, I can't believe I've been playing this game for almost 10 years and only just got into PFS...

Thanks for helping!

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