Undead & Resurrection


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Can Undead creatures be targetted by Resurrection and/or True Ressurection?

The Undead description states the following:

Undead Traits wrote:
Not affected by raise dead and reincarnate spells or abilities. Resurrection and true resurrection can affect undead creatures. These spells turn undead creatures back into the living creatures they were before becoming undead.

However, the Resurrection spells say the following:

Resurrection wrote:
You can resurrect someone killed by a death effect or someone who has been turned into an undead creature and then destroyed. You cannot resurrect someone who has died of old age. Constructs, elementals, outsiders, and undead creatures can’t be resurrected.
True Resurrection wrote:
You can revive someone killed by a death effect or someone who has been turned into an undead creature and then destroyed. This spell can also resurrect elementals or outsiders, but it can’t resurrect constructs or undead creatures.

Emphasis mine.

So is the intent supposed to be that you can only resurrect an undead creature after it has been destroyed? If so, then the bit under "undead traits" doesn't make much sense, since everything that dies and is destroyed, is treated as an object.

If it's still treated as an undead to the point where it has undead traits, it's still "alive" right?


Kaouse wrote:
So is the intent supposed to be that you can only resurrect an undead creature after it has been destroyed?

Yes, or rather you can resurrect the creature it once was once it's been destroyed.

Kaouse wrote:
If so, then the bit under "undead traits" doesn't make much sense, since everything that dies and is destroyed, is treated as an object.

Yeah, that's pretty sloppy writing. Trust the spell descriptions.

Kaouse wrote:
If it's still treated as an undead to the point where it has undead traits, it's still "alive" right?

Yes and no. Once you've destroyed the undead, its remains (an object, as you say) still cannot be affected by raise dead or reincarnate; that property is retained forever.


Hmm, so what would say is the most effective means to deal with an undead? Especially if it's an undead version of a PC?


Kaouse wrote:
Hmm, so what would say is the most effective means to deal with an undead? Especially if it's an undead version of a PC?

What kind of undead are they?


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Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:
Kaouse wrote:
Hmm, so what would say is the most effective means to deal with an undead? Especially if it's an undead version of a PC?
What kind of undead are they?

Generic undead. Nothing overtly special, IIRC.

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