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I recently had a GM tell me i could not purchase a medlance because I don't own the technology guide. But it was on a chronical sheet of mine.
So if that is true than everyone who plays a PAthfinder AP who gets the chronical sheet has to own that book. And also any custom magic items on a chronical sheet from a reg. Scenario will require anyone who wishes to purchase said item to first buy the scenario? Is that right?
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edit: You must own a legal rules source for the item.
If an AP is the rules source for an item on its PFS chronicle, you must own the AP volume.
If the chronicle sheet contains complete stats for the item, that sheet is a legal source to purchase the item. If it only gives modifications to an existing item, the player must own the source for the unmodified item.
If the stats for the item only occur elsewhere in a PFS scenario, check the product thread or GM prep thread for a specific ruling.
Venture-Agent, Australia—QLD—Brisbane
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Being on the chronicle simply gives you access to the item. As Starglim said, to be able to actually use any rule or item in-game that isn't from the core rulebook, you must own and provide the rules for them.
Top of second column, in p5 of the Guild Guide.
In order to use content from sources outside
the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook, a player must bring an
accessible copy of the resource that indicates that she owns
the resource. An accessible copy means one of the following:
a physical copy of the book, a name-watermarked Paizo PDF
of the relevant pages, or either a photocopy of the relevant
pages or electronic access to the Pathfinder Reference
Document at paizo.com/prd along with proof of purchase.
Proof of purchase may include a receipt from a game store
or a screenshot of your My Downloads page at paizo.com.
In addition to the rules themselves, you must bring a
current copy of the Additional Resources listing pertaining
to the rule. Inform the GM that you plan to use additional
resource material before play begins and allow the GM to
familiarize herself with any new rules.
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There is at least one chronicle that contains the full writeup for the medlance. If you have that, then you don't need to own the book, as the chronicle itself becomes the source for the item.
So if it just says "medlance (500gp)" (probably with limit 1) in the list of items, with no other mention, then you need the book. If it reprints the entire text of the item on the chronicle, then you don't need the book.
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I'm curious why you felt the need to ask them, when you already created this thread, or why you created this thread, if you were planning on asking them anyways?
Seems that everybody you've asked thus far has given you the same answer.
Not attacking you or anything, I just find certain behaviors interesting.
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Yes I checked with several venture captains and even a fewer higher up people. If the item is fully stated out in the chronical sheet, or it is a custom item in the chronical sheet, like a named item. Then you don't need the source. Otherwise everyone would have to own damn near every book.
Yes, this exactly how access works, as you have been told on this very thread. And, yes, many of us DO own damn near every book; items statted outbon chronicles are very much the exception.
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I will chime in with some two cent commentary, however:
You will find, inevitably, a number of players that will use all the many pooled reference resources for PFS to create characters. When there are resources like PFSRD or Archive of Nethys, players will use these websites to build character because it's a lot easier than physically pouring over books or digitally pouring over PDFs. Some areas are very strict on these rules, while others are somewhat lax (or have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy). YMMV regarding common practices, but VOs have to adhere to those rules, so in turn, GMs have every right to ask if you own the resource.
Resources like Hero Lab (and some free/cheap iOS one that's buggy as all heck) make matters worse. Especially Hero Lab, where players are paying for the data packages to have access to all the books. That definitely does NOT count as owning the resource. You need to have the physical book or a copy of the PDF (with your name in the watermark, but I believe exceptions are made for "households").
As someone who uses Hero Lab, I have to carefully de-select all the resources that I don't own when I create a PFS character using the software. It's the nature of PFS.