Do Brevoy Bandit and Love lost Stack?

[Radatz]

Specifically I want to know if the +2 Profession bonus from the Orphaned choice would stack with the additional mod bonus gained from Brevoy Bandit. GM says they're both Trait bonuses and wouldn't stack...

[Radatz]

Bump

[Wonderstell]

Would help if you quoted the two different traits, but as I'm full of unnecessary knowledge I'm still able to give my verdict.

Brevoy Bandit allows you to add another ability modifier to your Profession checks, and Orphaned grants you a +2 bonus.

While neither trait states that it is a trait bonus, your GM is in his/her full right to rule that they shouldn't stack.

Traits wrote:

Many traits grant a new type of bonus: a “trait” bonus. Trait bonuses do not stack—they’re intended to give player characters a slight edge, not a secret backdoor way to focus all of a character’s traits on one type of bonus and thus gain an unseemly advantage. It’s certainly possible, for example, that somewhere down the line, a “Courageous” trait might be on the list of dwarf race traits, but just because this trait is on both the dwarf race traits list and the basic combat traits list doesn’t mean you’re any more brave if you choose both versions than if you choose only one.

From my own interpretation, I'd allow them to stack. I'd treat the Orphaned bonus as a trait bonus and the Brevoy Bandit as an untyped modifier, since the language of Brevoy Bandit never states that it is a 'bonus'.

[Radatz]

yeah I should have listed the traits! this is my first ever post sorry!

Bandit:

You fled the persecution of Brevoy authorities and wound up in Mivon. Whether or not you are guilty of your alleged crimes, you seek to build a new life amid new neighbors. Choose one Profession skill and one ability score other than Wisdom. You add that ability score’s modifier in addition to your Wisdom modifier on checks with the chosen Profession skill

lovelost:

Orphaned: The murder victim was your only surviving parent. You had to grow up fast to take care of your siblings or to handle your family’s matters and were forced from an early age to support yourself. You gain a +2 bonus on one of the following skills: Craft, Perform, or Profession.

Widowed: The murder victim was a lover. With your lover’s death, a part of you died as well, leaving you haunted, grim, and prone to dark musings. You gain a +2 bonus on Intimidate checks.

I understand and fully support the GM gets final say rulings, I was more interested in what the consensus would be with rules as written and what opinions on the subject would be?

[Pounce]

To me it seems like they should stack. One adds a set numerical bonus, another adds a second ability score modifier. Seems fine to me.

[Radatz]

That is what I thought too. thanks for the feedback you guys.