My understanding is that any power armor with hands can wield equipment / weapons however if its larger than medium then it would take size penalties unless the gear was sized for the armor.
Pg 168 of the core book states:
"Weapons are built to be easily held and used by both Small and Medium creatures. Weapons can be built for use by smaller creatures but generally cost twice as much (since they require special miniaturization technology). Weapons can also be built for use by larger creatures with no increase in price. A Small or Medium creature trying to use a weapon built for a creature that is Tiny or Large suffers a –4 penalty to attack rolls. Weapons designed for creatures Diminutive or smaller, or Huge or larger, generally cannot be effectively used by Small or Medium creatures."
Hope this helps
I really don't think that the size of powered armor effects the size of its mounted weapons.
It shouldn't matter, the armor isn't a character. Also, I don't know if you can even assign an attack penalty to a suit of armor, or why that would then transfer to a character.
I believe your misunderstanding my explanation. I dont believe the OP was referring to weapons mounted on the armor they are of course built to an appropriate size. he is referring to taking his PC's weapons and holding them in the armors hands and using them. In this case its fairly clear by the rules what happens. Most armor is large or larger while a PC's weapons would be medium in most cases and so a -4 penalty would apply.
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Nope, I get your explanation just fine. I didn't speak to armor size vs size of mounted weapons.
What I’m saying is that there are rules governing character size, weapon size, and the interactions between them. There are not, that I know of, rules governing whether your armor size and weapon size need to be compatible.
Until there are, a medium character wielding a medium weapon should be fine, regardless of how big his suit is.
I mean, I get what you're saying. It's even an understandable stance to have. But I don't believe the rules support your interpretation.
I guess your game is your game but that interpretation makes no sense. if your encased in a Large suit of armor than for all intents and purposes you are considered large. Your reach is large, your space is large.. how then are you not considered large for things held in your large hands?
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I guess your game is your game but that interpretation makes no sense. if your encased in a Large suit of armor than for all intents and purposes you are considered large. Your reach is large, your space is large.. how then are you not considered large for things held in your large hands?Nope, I get your explanation just fine. I didn't speak to armor size vs size of mounted weapons.
What I’m saying is that there are rules governing character size, weapon size, and the interactions between them. There are not, that I know of, rules governing whether your armor size and weapon size need to be compatible.
Until there are, a medium character wielding a medium weapon should be fine, regardless of how big his suit is.
I mean, I get what you're saying. It's even an understandable stance to have. But I don't believe the rules support your interpretation.
The hands might not be Large. *shrug* I don't see any reason why power armor's limbs must have variable weapon manipulators (i.e. hands) that are large, even if the total rig is Large. My car can shine normal headlights or brights at a flip of a switch, and the driver's seat can accommodate a big person like me or a very small person with some easy adjustments.
The large armor is not a large creature. It is, for all intents and purposes, a vehicle like my car. My car gives me certain extra characteristics when I drive it (speed, armor, temperature control); I don't BECOME the car.
I almost want to say that it doesn't matter, since the weapon damage remains the same, regardless of its size category, anyway. Forcing a penalty seems like a good way to frustrate your player and almost force them to buy another copy of said weapon with the appropriate size category.
The game doesn't say large or huge powered armor requires you to use larger weapons, so they don't.