House's size in kingmaker, building a school!!!


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HHHHHHHEEEEELLLOOOOWWWW TALL FOLKS!!!!

i'm back! and i'm back so damn happy. Just to make a Little entrance here, i want to say that my character (a poverty vote cleric of Sarenrae) has been reincarnated into a goblin. Why? he decided to sacrifice himself in a ritual so then he can safe his friend, a noble cavalier who lost in a duel vs the goblin chief (who happened to be a druid, so he himself reincarnated my character). I'm hyped, because you all know...i love gobs.

Well, hands to the work: My powerty vote cleric keeps taking money from the adventuring treassure. His goal is to make powerty dissapear not through giving money to the poor, but through opening a school that has enough resources to teach them, feed them and keep them in untill they have learned an occupation.

That said, my DM told me to look for the money that cost me to build a house (or a couple of houses) in kingmaker, and we will be using that system (and also the improved system, where 1 BP = 1000 gp in small Kingdoms)

So, i've to find a trustable NPC who can own the school (because i cant own it due to my vote) and also i've to gather 6000 gp. But a question came to my mind, and this is where i need you all to help me...

How big is/are the house/s that i will be able to build with that money?

How many people can that houses keep in?

How wide is the terrain that that houses/school are going to occupy?

Is there any way to calculate it?

Do you have any original/interesting idea to aid me in my goal to help the poor to reach a better life?

See you all in here, your allways fantastic GOBLIN CAVE OF LOVE

kisses, hughs, and all that things i allways like to give to you all.


Schools won't end poverty. The costs can be found in ultimate campaign and in the kingmaker book, i think. d20pfsrd has the kingdom building rules in there too. If you truly want to end poverty in your kingdom, build a huge army and conquer. Your people will earn their pay and you can fund their payment through war.


Thunderlord wrote:
Schools won't end poverty. The costs can be found in ultimate campaign and in the kingmaker book, i think. d20pfsrd has the kingdom building rules in there too. If you truly want to end poverty in your kingdom, build a huge army and conquer. Your people will earn their pay and you can fund their payment through war.

War is far away from my first choice, yup, i'm a weird gob, but i'm who i'm and i like it that way ("start singing").

I will give a look to the ultimate campaign book since it maybe has the Price to a normal house. I wanted to know how big is the terrain that houses cover in kingmaker since i believe its not just a house but a couple of houses, but i cant find the place where the city is divided in boxes


IIRC Kingmaker/Ultimate Campaign don't list an actual size for the houses other than a 2x2 square takes up a block (a set of houses takes up 1 of those squares) and than each square that has a building in it increases the population by 250. Which would mean that, assuming an average of 4 people per house, there would be roughly 6 houses for 3 Build Points.

Also, be sure to check with your GM about the value of a Build Point.

Quote:

...if you’re running a small, self-starting kingdom, the GM may allow you to turn your gold into BP at a better rate. You may only take advantage of this if you don’t have a sponsor; it represents your people seeing the hard work you’re directly putting in and being inspired to do the same to get the kingdom off the ground.

-Ultimate Campaign


If you're not really playing Kingmaker but just want a school, I'd really recommend you to show your DM the downtime rules for buildings (also Ultimate Campaign).
In particular the Academy.


Warped Savant wrote:

IIRC Kingmaker/Ultimate Campaign don't list an actual size for the houses other than a 2x2 square takes up a block (a set of houses takes up 1 of those squares) and than each square that has a building in it increases the population by 250. Which would mean that, assuming an average of 4 people per house, there would be roughly 6 houses for 3 Build Points.

Also, be sure to check with your GM about the value of a Build Point.

Quote:

...if you’re running a small, self-starting kingdom, the GM may allow you to turn your gold into BP at a better rate. You may only take advantage of this if you don’t have a sponsor; it represents your people seeing the hard work you’re directly putting in and being inspired to do the same to get the kingdom off the ground.

-Ultimate Campaign

Thank you very much!! i will give a look on this. I have to admit that i expected a bit more aforum capacity but i guess building houses from scratch is quite expensive.


RoseCrown wrote:

If you're not really playing Kingmaker but just want a school, I'd really recommend you to show your DM the downtime rules for buildings (also Ultimate Campaign).

In particular the Academy.

I looked for the Academy but its waaaaay too expensive for me to build it. Also its developed from library and my school is going to be a school of occupations, it makes more sense that i will have to pay a Smith, carpentry and the like to teach poor people/low society people some manual labour occupations.

Thank you for the rules suggestion tho, maybe they are different from the kingdoom building rules and i can build this with less money.


Graelsis wrote:

Thank you for the rules suggestion tho, maybe they are different from the kingdoom building rules and i can build this with less money.

The downtime building are usually much cheaper. :)


RoseCrown wrote:
Graelsis wrote:

Thank you for the rules suggestion tho, maybe they are different from the kingdoom building rules and i can build this with less money.

The downtime building are usually much cheaper. :)

Rose, i checked the rules you talked about...i'm in love right now, my head is bubbling with ideas of a great school/hospital where the poor can be turned into students and also the school gains enough money to offer free healthcare to people in need.

Damn, it's like i'm playing the campaign of my dreams now. Thank you so much.

You have gained a new goblin friend.


...only if your DM accepts it though.


I totally screwed up my math!
250 people in one square = 62 1/2 houses if there's 4 people per house... a lot of people get crammed into a small area.

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