Pathfinder 2nd Edition Characters able to play PFS 1st Edition Scenarios for Credit

[The Masked Ferret]

Will we be able to play the PFS scenarios designed for Pathfinder 1st Edition with our Pathfinder 2nd Edition PFS characters?

[Tonya Woldridge]

No. The two campaigns, while linked, will remain separate in regards to which characters play in which campaign. So 1st edition characters in 1st edition scenarios.

[Sebastian Hirsch]

Is there maybe the option to convert some old/great scenarios to PF2, at some point after PF2 is released?
It might be hard to offer these, so new players can experience the story (telling a player who started with PF2 to go back might be a hard sell).

[Dustin Knight]

I'm sure many of the things that make successful PF1 scenarios are now eligle to return to PF2. Now without the risk of a PC at the table going "wait, I've chased down a sleepwalker before..."

[Sebastian Hirsch]

Dustin Knight wrote:

I'm sure many of the things that make successful PF1 scenarios are now eligle to return to PF2. Now without the risk of a PC at the table going "wait, I've chased down a sleepwalker before..."

You certainly have a point, but many of those top 15 scenarios are part of a kind of shared legacy, most players can relate to. I thought it might be worthwhile to provide the chance to play these with the current ruleset.

Kinda like World of Warcraft does it with their timewalking dungeons (it let's players access out of date missions with adapted difficulty and rewards).

[Dustin Knight]

Well we will be free to continue running PF1, the same way we run CORE now. I wouldn't be surprised if organized play does away with the "no replay rule" once PF2 is off the ground and kicking.

[Kurald Galain]

We've been told by the game designers that PF1 statblocks are easily converted to PF2.

The current Pathfinder Society has numerous high-quality scenarios, and it would be a shame to let those be lost to the mists of history. So really, it would be a huge benefit to PFS2 (and not a lot of work overall) to offer an official conversion of a number of fan favorite adventures, and let those be played for credit as part of PFS2.

[Zenifyr Rose]

Kurald Galain wrote:

We've been told by the game designers that PF1 statblocks are easily converted to PF2.

The current Pathfinder Society has numerous high-quality scenarios, and it would be a shame to let those be lost to the mists of history. So really, it would be a huge benefit to PFS2 (and not a lot of work overall) to offer an official conversion of a number of fan favorite adventures, and let those be played for credit as part of PFS2.

While a great idea, I have to point out we are already (nearly) four months behind in AR updates and as con season comes up mostly likely further..and the editorial and writer workload is only going to increase over the run up to release in 2019.

I honestly don’t see it doable in the immediate (pre-2020] future. Maybe years down the line but not anytime soon

[TwilightKnight]

Also keep in mind that we’ve been saying the exact same thing about season zero scenarios for years. Clearly Paizo is either unable (probably due to limited resources) or unwilling (perhaps due to return on investment) to update v3.5 scenarios to PF. I would expect the same stance regarding updating PFS1 scenarios to PF2E rules

[Kyrie Ebonblade,]

Bob Jonquet wrote:

Also keep in mind that we’ve been saying the exact same thing about season zero scenarios for years. Clearly Paizo is either unable (probably due to limited resources) or unwilling (perhaps due to return on investment) to update v3.5 scenarios to PF. I would expect the same stance regarding updating PFS1 scenarios to PF2E rules

There are some out there already. They are currently limited play for Cons only by Tonya and a couple others.. maybe we will see them released for general use. (Given my jobs reluctant to allow time off, I don’t see anything aside from Local cons in my future)

[Kyrie Ebonblade,]

Bob Jonquet wrote:

Also keep in mind that we’ve been saying the exact same thing about season zero scenarios for years. Clearly Paizo is either unable (probably due to limited resources) or unwilling (perhaps due to return on investment) to update v3.5 scenarios to PF. I would expect the same stance regarding updating PFS1 scenarios to PF2E rules

There are some out there already. They are currently limited play for Cons only by Tonya and a couple others.. maybe we will see them released for general use. (Given my jobs reluctant to allow time off, I don’t see anything aside from Local cons in my future)

That aside, I do not think conversion over will work. I recall my attempts with 2e DND to 3E. Fighter/Wizard/Cleric of Finder...totally different outlook in the outcome

Maybe a ‘credit’ build..like 3-5 levels for one or three PCs... a legacy thing.. tiered based on stars but let’s be honest folks, mid+/high level play won’t be a thing for a season for most folks. So starting out ‘ahead of the group’ means you have to wait for them

Me? Ike tempted to have some of my seekers kkidsk and ‘mentored’ students be my next edition characters

Now maybe a ‘mentor’ or ‘legacy’ boon that ties you to one of your old system characters might be suitable

[Tallow]

Thomas Graham wrote:

Bob Jonquet wrote:

Also keep in mind that we’ve been saying the exact same thing about season zero scenarios for years. Clearly Paizo is either unable (probably due to limited resources) or unwilling (perhaps due to return on investment) to update v3.5 scenarios to PF. I would expect the same stance regarding updating PFS1 scenarios to PF2E rules

There are some out there already. They are currently limited play for Cons only by Tonya and a couple others.. maybe we will see them released for general use. (Given my jobs reluctant to allow time off, I don’t see anything aside from Local cons in my future)

They aren't really updated though. The only season 0 scenario that is updated for Pathfinder is 0-05: Mists of Mwangi.

All the ones that get used as special tables when a Paizo Staff Member is present to run them (or on special occasions the author of the scenario itself), simply have some notes and stat blocks in a word (maybe turned into a simple PDF in note form) document.

So there is no real conversion. Just some notes to make them capable of being run as a Pathfinder scenario. The more difficult ones to convert are the ones that were retired for balance purposes.

[Kurald Galain]

Tallow wrote:

They aren't really updated though. The only season 0 scenario that is updated for Pathfinder is 0-05: Mists of Mwangi.

Really? I thought all season 0 scenarios were allowed with Pathfinder?

How about allowing four- or five-star GMs to convert scenarios and run them (and perhaps post them publically here)? I mean, the whole P2 Playtest is telling us that conversion is supposed to be easy.

I just don't want to discard ten years of great plotlines :)

[Sebastian Hirsch]

Kurald Galain wrote:

Tallow wrote:

They aren't really updated though. The only season 0 scenario that is updated for Pathfinder is 0-05: Mists of Mwangi.

Really? I thought all season 0 scenarios were allowed with Pathfinder?

How about allowing four- or five-star GMs to convert scenarios and run them (and perhaps post them publically here)? I mean, the whole P2 Playtest is telling us that conversion is supposed to be easy.

I just don't want to discard ten years of great plotlines :)

Trust me... if you put 3 5-star GMs in a room and tell them to convert a scenario, you end up with about 7 versions.. some of them very deadly and very much geared to counter their local meta.

[TimD]

Kurald Galain wrote:

Tallow wrote:

They aren't really updated though. The only season 0 scenario that is updated for Pathfinder is 0-05: Mists of Mwangi.

Really? I thought all season 0 scenarios were allowed with Pathfinder?

Season 0 was written for 3.5, not Pathfinder.

Barring the scenarios which have been retired, they are all legal for Pathfinder 1.0.
Mists of Mwangi is special in that it was updated to reflect the Pathfinder set, rather than 3.5 rule set.

[GlennH]

I don't think Pazio would update any PF1 scenarios due to opportunity cost, but I could see PFS members writing up scenario conversions much like there is the shared prep documents.

It would be nice if the Home-Play mode rule could be applied to 1st edition scenarios and applied using a generic chronicle to 2nd edition. (IE. Play 1E scenario converted to 2E, with just gold and xp applied to 2e character. {pipe dream} )