Looks like popcorn-grade fun, which all that I ask for from Marvel movies.
Eh. The effects for Venom are always hard to get JUST right but I've seen much worse....
Not sold on Tom Hardy here.
Honestly, unless the reviews are amazing for this flick, I will be skipping it. I don't want to give Sony any ideas that a non Spiderman spideyverse is a good idea. Just let Marvel play with properties.
Yes this is Sony, just with different branding...
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For me Venom ONLY worked when they were a straight-up antagonist for Spider-Man. I loved those first few appearances of Venom/Eddie Brock in AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. I absolutely HATE what Marvel started doing in the 90's by taking their best villains and trying to turn them into sympathetic "anti-heroes" which was GARBAGE.
Just like the Frank Castle, Venom is a VILLAIN re-skinned to be a hero and it annoys the ever-loving crap out of me.
I'd humbly submit that Frank Castle was intended as an anti-hero, not a villain.
However, making them 'socially acceptable' is where it starts getting a bit trashy.
Castle made no bones about his War.
Venom, on the other hand, seemed to have this personality disorder thing going on, depending on which writer was at the helm, and the fact they had to 'double down' to get worse for them to beat on...
I always liked the back and forth for venom. Its different from the norm where heros are heros and villains are villain. venom has done both its kind of humanizeing imo.
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I'd humbly submit that Frank Castle was intended as an anti-hero, not a villain.However, making them 'socially acceptable' is where it starts getting a bit trashy.
Castle made no bones about his War.
I'll be the first to admit that my extreme dislike for the character (and even MORE so for his fandom) colors my perception of him. I think that Frank is interesting in VERY small doses. PUNISHER: BORN is a GREAT Frank Castle story. As is his appearance in Brubaker's run on DAREDEVIL.
But for the most part, I'm not a fan of the character. One of the few characters if where I see he's guest starring in a book I'm less likely to read the book. For me that's pretty rare.
The 'Frank Face' thing that happened a lot in his comics got tiresome. 'Get Franked' was an oft quoted meme when Frank-in-Drag,Little Frank,FrankFrankFrank popped up all over the place.
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Sounds to me like this guy is the voice of Venom
I could be wrong. But the diction and the way he talks...
Second trailer has been released.
I was laughing at the parts where Venom is discussing eating someone to their face.
"Eyes. Lungs. Pancreas. So many snacks, so little time."
"We will eat both your arms and then both of your legs, and then we will eat your face right off your head. You will be this armless, legless faceless thing won't you. Rolling down the street. Like a turd. In the wind."
Good times.
Did I see another symbiote ripping Venom off Eddie?
Looks like it, yes. Think it is bonded with the CEO villain.
Yeah...it's confirmed that Riz Ahmed's character is bonded with Riot
So we're getting the entire Maximum Carnage...but apparently no Carnage.
A little weird...but okay...
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Man carnage needs his own movie anyways. Don't want to overload it.
True. They need to do a Se7en type movie with Carnage.
Theirs a comic I read where basicaly its following some shield agents trying to catch ol cassidy and they have to bring eddie in on a leash to have a chance and its basically carnage screwing with them while slaughtering them untill they have no choice but to let eddie of his chain. I think that could be a decent starting point.
Second trailer has been released.
I was laughing at the parts where Venom is discussing eating someone to their face.
"Eyes. Lungs. Pancreas. So many snacks, so little time."
"We will eat both your arms and then both of your legs, and then we will eat your face right off your head. You will be this armless, legless faceless thing won't you. Rolling down the street. Like a turd. In the wind."
Good times.
PG-13 so no rolling in the wind, sadly.
Well, you don't want your best and most iconic villain in your first movie. Better to save him for when you have more time to develop him?
(assuming Venom actually does well enough that someone will want to finance a sequel)....
True. They need to do a Se7en type movie with Carnage.
That would be epic.
Theirs a comic I read where basicaly its following some shield agents trying to catch ol cassidy and they have to bring eddie in on a leash to have a chance and its basically carnage screwing with them while slaughtering them untill they have no choice but to let eddie of his chain. I think that could be a decent starting point.
That would be Carnage volume 2. It was a short lived series but it had that AND Chthon. It's also how Eddie lost Toxin, along with Carnage getting locked up.
Honestly until I read the summary on wikipedia, I fully expect this to be an eh movie. Much like Dark Phoenix.
Decent fare. Nothing I'd really change. This isn't meant to be one of the MCU's blockbusters. It's a solid entry, and I felt like they were respectably close to the core of the character.
I merely refer to the personality, not the background. Venom without the 'kill Spidey' was what we got. Brains were on the menu.
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Oh, I don't know about that ...
It's something I hear people say / grumble sometimes, but it's not very accurate. Most critics are neither pretentious, snobs, or paid by studios. They are mostly just people who know a lot about film and are passionate enough to give their opinions.
I think the trick is to find a few critics you respect, hear what they have to say, and then make your own mind up if you want to see a film or not.
In this case, most of the critics I respect (along with a lot more who I don't personally follow) had very little that was positive to say about the movie.
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I think it's fair to say that when it is someone's job to watch movies, they are not going to be impressed by a movie that is merely "not that bad."
If anything, I suspect what critics hate most is sitting through a mediocre movie. A truly bad movie at least gives them something interesting to write about.
I saw it. My big complaint was the beginning seemed to drag on then the middle and the end was over to quickly. That and It seemed so wrong without spider man being involved but I knew that was coming. Missed the symbol on the chest. That and it suffered in parts because of how dark the fight scenes were. Best part was the car chase. Also the symbiote itself was hilarious. The other weird thing Is i feel like Tom hardy was channeling Charlie kelly for some parts.
Also is it just me or did it never acknowledge whether or not the symbiote was actually eating brock too? the doctor said it was despite the symbiotes protesting.
They left that ambiguous on purpose, I think. Down the road if it does well they can come back to that for future storylines. It's also interesting that if the symbiote is hurting Brock, it also did a great job of patching him up.
Ok I'm glad I didn't just miss it. Yeah I think there is heavy incentive to keep it fed.