Weretouched and racial abilities


Rules Questions


The weretouched shifter archetype changes the wild shape of the base shifter

Weretouched wrote:

Lycanthropic Wild Shape (Su)

At 4th level, when a weretouched uses wild shape, she can assume only the form of an animal of the same type as her lycanthrope aspect. However, instead of assuming a major form, she can assume a hybrid form that mixes the traits of her natural form and the major form of her aspect. While in a hybrid form, she gain a +2 size bonus to her Strength score, a +2 natural armor bonus to her AC, and all of the natural attacks and abilities listed by her major form. A weretouched also counts as being in her natural form for the purpose of determining whether she can extend her shifter claws. A weretouched’s hybrid form is roughly the same size and shape as her natural form, albeit with bestial qualities such as digitigrade legs or shaggy fur, so her equipment does not merge into her new form when she shifts between her natural form and hybrid form. In addition, the size of a weretouched’s hybrid form is the same as the size of her natural form. This otherwise counts as assuming a major form using wild shape.

That line seems to be directed at enlarge person and the like to stop abuse with increasing sizes, but it also stops racial abilities such as darkvision and such if I'm reading it right.

Or since it's close enough to the base form, would they retain their abilities? This seems like what the RAI is.

polymorph rules wrote:
While under the effects of a polymorph spell, you lose all extraordinary and supernatural abilities that depend on your original form (such as keen senses, scent, and darkvision), as well as any natural attacks and movement types possessed by your original form.


I believe you are correct that they lose them, although the hybrid form will get the abilities, including senses, of the major form.

So Lizard-Dwarf loses darkvision, but gains low light vision, scent etc.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Ok, lets layer this with my character.

A Tiger blooded Skinwalker Weretouched wolf aspect. Would I be able to retain my See In Darkness when I use the Major Aspect, or is the two forms independent of each other?


thaX wrote:
Would I be able to retain my See In Darkness when I use the Major Aspect, or is the two forms independent of each other?

Independent. Change shape and Lycanthropic Wild Shape are both polymorph effects and senses are explicitly called out as form dependent features you do not retain.

Liberty's Edge

My question is, can you ONLY do the hybrid form or can you choose to use either the major form or the hybrid form as desired?


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You can do either.

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