magic and the interactions with space or in space... ships

[ghostunderasheet]

So i have a mystic. He is a "smite the heretic" kind of character. If two ships where close enough so if you could look out and see another person on the other ship though a port
Could l mind thrust that person?

Its not a roll to hit spell just a save or sucks to be you spell. Its not passing though anything....

[ghostunderasheet]

Could i also vader that target through the vid phone as well?

Vader force chokes a sucker for failing him over a conference call. Just to clearify for those who did not know what i meant by vadering. That would be great for an intimidation tactic. Talking the pirate captian out of attacking you and mind thrusting a poor schmuck in the background to get your point across.

[pithica42]

Space is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly hugely mindbogglingly big it is. I mean you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to space.

It's going to be very rare that you're able to see a ship at all out of the port window other than as a shiny dot moving in the vast distance. It's highly unlikely that you'll ever be within 25ft +5ft/2lvls close to something in space. Current estimations on the space combat hex grid sizes have ranges in the km to 1000s of km ranges (they're not actually a fixed size). Even if you are that close to the other ship, you still need line of effect to target them, which is stopped by the ship hulls between you.

I don't think the rules currently allow you to vader someone. Though, I expect at some point there will be (if there isn't already) a spell or item that does, it's just not mindthrust.

[ghostunderasheet]

Ahh drats there goes my dreams of popping someones head as a threat.

[Robert Gooding]

pithica42 wrote:

Space is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly hugely mindbogglingly big it is. I mean you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to space.

It's going to be very rare that you're able to see a ship at all out of the port window other than as a shiny dot moving in the vast distance. It's highly unlikely that you'll ever be within 25ft +5ft/2lvls close to something in space. Current estimations on the space combat hex grid sizes have ranges in the km to 1000s of km ranges (they're not actually a fixed size). Even if you are that close to the other ship, you still need line of effect to target them, which is stopped by the ship hulls between you.

I don't think the rules currently allow you to vader someone. Though, I expect at some point there will be (if there isn't already) a spell or item that does, it's just not mindthrust.

Love the Adams

[pithica42]

That quote is my go to response to almost every question about doing anything in space. It works for so much.

[The Ragi]

ghostunderasheet wrote:

So i have a mystic. He is a "smite the heretic" kind of character. If two ships where close enough so if you could look out and see another person on the other ship though a port

Could l mind thrust that person?

I'd allow that only if both characters were in tiny ships (racer, interceptor or fighter) and dog-fighting inside a planet's atmosphere - and I'd probably look into applying vehicle combat rules, specifically drive-by attacks.

[MarcCCTx]

Also, some kind of Concentration check. Both ships are probably moving quite fast. Use ship damage as a modifier to the check.

[The Ragi]

MarcCCTx wrote:

Also, some kind of Concentration check.

I'm pretty sure those are gone in Starfinder.

[ghostunderasheet]

Yea i don't see concentration anywhere in the back of the crb.