Medium (Uda Wendo) and peculiar Domains

[SharadW]

Hello. Let's talk about that archetype
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/occult-adventures/occult-classes/medium/archetypes/ paizo-llc-medium-archetypes/wendo-medium-archetype/

Description wrote:

While channeling a wendo, the uda wendo gains the 1st-level domain power of one druid animal or terrain domain (Pathfinder RPG Ultimate Magic 33), or the 1st-level domain power of one of the following cleric domains:<...>

The uda wendo has an effective cleric or druid level equal to 1/2 his medium level (minimum 1st) for the purpose of this ability

Things are very clear if we choose something like Air domain. There's only one power tied to clevel and ability (wisdom)

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However, some domains can grant you several powers at first level. And those powers might be not tied to your clevel or ability. For example:
Darkness domain: You gain a Feat and (Sp) power.
Eagle domain (and similar): You gain a Familiar and (Su) power.
For those domains we probably might rule that you get nothing except (Sp) and (Su) powers..
..but meet the Wolf domain: The only thing you gain at first level is Feat. No any powers tied to clevel and ability.
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So, there's a question:
What exactly Uda Wendo can get from domains? Only powers tied to clevel or everything what Domain grants at 1st level?
*in the first case we'll get nothing from Wolf domain at all (except spells)

Thanks.

[asdffghjkl01]

I can see both sides of this and would like for paizo to clarify what a "1st level domain power" exactly is.

[I'm Hiding In Your Closet]

I'd be inclined to put this in the "DM and common sense" jurisdiction; the developers can't make overarching universal rules to fit everything...at least, not without crippling future creative potential.

[SharadW]

>"DM and common sense" jurisdiction
...what could make characters unplayable on some tables (no feat -> broken feat chain). I can accept table variation when it's not really significant, so for my question I'd like to see clear ruling.

>the developers can't make overarching universal rules to fit everything
that's not impossible thing, but requires huge amount of work.

[Xenocrat]

It’s not in a hardcover and it’s not important to PFS, so you’re wasting your time asking for a FAQ. Splat books are caveat emptor for vague or broken rules.

[asdffghjkl01]

Xenocrat wrote:

It’s not in a hardcover and it’s not important to PFS, so you’re wasting your time asking for a FAQ. Splat books are caveat emptor for vague or broken rules.

The fact that what a domain power is exactly in the core book is the problem. The things listed here are examples of the problem but the problem stretches far past splat books. Secondly it is important for PFS because an answer would eliminate table variation for major styles of characters that receive domain powers. Having your entire character become unplayable because half of the GMs you play with say you don't receive a domain feat, which then makes the rest of your build illegal, isn't fun for anyone.

Look at the animal domain if you want a core example. Is getting an animal companion at 4th level a "domain power"? That's the question that's being asked here.

[SharadW]

>not in a hardcover
as you wish
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/paladin/archetypes/paizo-palad in-archetypes/temple-champion/
Advanced Class Guide
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Divine fighting technique feat - same question. What exactly should Cleric forgo to gain that feat' benefits? (if my domain contains more than just ordinary 1st level power)

[SharadW]

Good example: Protection domain (avaiable for Uda Wendo and Temple Champion)
You gain +1 res. save bonus.
And 1st level ability

Quote:

Resistant Touch (Sp):

As a standard action, you can touch an ally to grant him your resistance bonus for 1 minute. When you use this ability, you lose your resistance bonus granted by the Protection domain for 1 minute. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.

Would be very-very weird if you get only (Sp) power, but no save bonus which allow you to use that power.

Again, can we rule that everything listed in domain description qualifies for 'domain power' or maybe every peculiar domain should have it's own rules in the case of UdaWendo/TempleChampion/DFTfeat?

[asdffghjkl01]

Just want to supply a related topic, Believer's Boon:

Benefit: When you take this feat, choose one domain granted by your deity. You can use the 1st-level domain ability that clerics of that domain can use a number of times or rounds per day, but you can use it only once per day or 1 round per day, whichever is appropriate. Your effective cleric level in regard to this ability is 1st level. If the domain has a 1st-level ability that does not meet this specification, you cannot use it.

This part was errated away into the above version: Choose one domain granted by your deity. Once per day, you can use all 1st-level domain abilities granted to clerics of that domain. You gain access to this one ability only, not the higher-level domain ability, domain spells, or additional class skills that the domain might grant, or any bonus feats that are listed under its granted powers. Your effective cleric level in regard to this ability is 1st level.