Granted, RAW is no to 2 concurrent Polymorph effects, but nowhere in Animal Focus does it specify that it is a polymorph effect.
Now my question is this: Can a Feral Shifter Druid Wildshape into a bear and use animal focus after to gain the aspect of Owl? (Kind of Owlbear idea)
Animal focus stacks with wild shape.
I agree with Cyrad :D the rule is: as long as the effect is not specified as a polymorph effect and does not change your size, then it stacks with a polymorph effect.
I agree with Cyrad :D the rule is: as long as the effect is not specified as a polymorph effect and does not change your size, then it stacks with a polymorph effect.
Now this brings up a related ? I had: I have a Feral Hunter. Her Feral Focus (Su) replaces the vanilla Hunter's Animal Focus, and at 4th level I get a (somewhat limited) Wild Shape (Su).
What do I do w/ this sentence, though, from Feral Focus: "This physical change is a polymorph effect, though the effects of the animal focus are not." WTH?!
What do you think: can my Feral Focus stack w/ Wild Shape, then?
What do I do w/ this sentence, though, from Feral Focus: "This physical change is a polymorph effect, though the effects of the animal focus are not." WTH?!
It means the mechanical benefits stack but not the flavor.
Feral focus's physical alterations to your appearance are considered a polymorph effect. Therefore, they do not stack with wild shape. The benefits of animal focus are not polymorph effects. Therefore, any bonuses you get from animal focus do stack with wild shape.
What do I do w/ this sentence, though, from Feral Focus: "This physical change is a polymorph effect, though the effects of the animal focus are not." WTH?!It means the mechanical benefits stack but not the flavor.
Feral focus's physical alterations to your appearance are considered a polymorph effect. Therefore, they do not stack with wild shape. The benefits of animal focus are not polymorph effects. Therefore, any bonuses you get from animal focus do stack with wild shape.
I'm cautiously optimistic this is good news for a PC of mine (for a change).
If I'm understanding your argument, when I'm in wild shape, I don't have the appearance of whatever animal focus I'm using; just whatever I'm wild shaped into. But I do gain the mechanical benefits of the animal focus while wild shaped.
C'mon level 4! ;-)
yes, animal focus would normally cause you to grow cosmetic whiskers, but if you have another polymorph they don't get the whiskers.
But the bonus is untyped so that always applies.
It's specifically written that way so that it DOES stack with Wild Shape.
Ok, good!
Now we need to lock this thread before some killjoy swoops in and tells me why my character is going to be an epic fail anyway, come X level...
Kidding. Sort of.