Swapped attributes, adapted magical item?

[Kelemvor187]

Greetings,

i just read the following FAQ-answer about swapped attributes as base for skills (for example Student of Philosophy switches CHA for INT):

FAQ

So obviously using the trait to base CHA-based skills on, renders the usage of a Circlet of Persuasion mute.

Is it possible to create a "Circlet of logical reasoning" instead of the Circlet of Persuasion with the same or reduced power, but applicable to INT based skills?

[VRMH]

Yes, if your GM lets you.
Some people prefer to stick to published gear, but your example is a non-game-breaking item.

[Cevah]

Kelemvor187 wrote:

So obviously using the trait to base CHA-based skills on, renders the usage of a Circlet of Persuasion mute.

Is it possible to create a "Circlet of logical reasoning" instead of the Circlet of Persuasion with the same or reduced power, but applicable to INT based skills?

[Grammar Ninja]

mute = silent
moot = no longer relevant
[/Grammar Ninja]

As a side note, if you casting stat is Charisma, the circlet helps with casting concentration checks.

If you get GM buy-in, go for it. The circlet has an effective (N^2)*500 price for its effect.

/cevah

[Kelemvor187]

Cevah wrote:

Kelemvor187 wrote:

So obviously using the trait to base CHA-based skills on, renders the usage of a Circlet of Persuasion mute.

Is it possible to create a "Circlet of logical reasoning" instead of the Circlet of Persuasion with the same or reduced power, but applicable to INT based skills?

[Grammar Ninja]

mute = silent
moot = no longer relevant
[/Grammar Ninja]

As a side note, if you casting stat is Charisma, the circlet helps with casting concentration checks.

If you get GM buy-in, go for it. The circlet has an effective (N^2)*500 price for its effect.

/cevah

Thank you for the Grammar Ninja (really!) and the formular.

I will ask the GM.

[Weirdo]

Swapping the associated stat might make the item more valuable, though.

Int-based skills: Appraise, Craft (any), Knowledge (all 10), Linguistics, and Spellcraft

Cha-based skills: Bluff, Diplomacy, Disguise, Handle Animal, Intimidate, Perform, Use Magic Device

So Intelligence gives you a bonus on 14 skills while Charisma gives you a bonus on 7 skills. Also, I think there are more ways to make a check into an Int-based check than into a Cha-based check.

Noble Scion does turn Initiative into a Cha-based check, which is a big benefit, but I doubt that this was taken into account when pricing the Circlet of Persuasion.