Retraining Feats

[Beorn Nitmo]

What do you all think of retraining a bonus feat into something else?

Meaning: You are a 5th level Wizard with a Mythic Tier and the "Crafting Mastery" power that lets you craft all magic items.

Could you (in your opinion) go back and retrain that bonus feat of "inscribe Scroll" into say, a Metamagic Feat now that you have Inscribe Scroll from your Crafting Mastery?

My initial thoughts are "no" but it is worth asking.

[blahpers]

Feat, Retraining wrote:

You may change one feat to another through retraining. Retraining a feat takes 5 days with a character who has the feat you want. The old feat can’t be one you used as a prerequisite for a feat, class feature, archetype, prestige class, or other ability. If the old feat is a bonus feat granted by a class feature, you must replace it with a feat that you could choose using that class feature.

Implication: You can retrain a bonus feat granted by a class feature, but you must retrain it to something that you could get from the same feature. Since that feature only has the option of Scribe Scroll, you can't retrain that particular bonus feat.

You could retrain into a different archetype that replaces Scribe Scroll, though, using the archetype retraining rules.

[Diachronos]

Retraining: Feat wrote:

You may change one feat to another through retraining. Retraining a feat takes 5 days with a character who has the feat you want. The old feat can’t be one you used as a prerequisite for a feat, class feature, archetype, prestige class, or other ability. If the old feat is a bonus feat granted by a class feature, you must replace it with a feat that you could choose using that class feature.

Scribe Scroll is given to Wizards automatically, and they don't have a choice in taking it or something else, so they can't retrain Scribe Scroll.

Now if, say, your Wizard had taken Brew Potion as their 5th level bonus feat, they could retrain Brew Potion and replace it with a metamagic feat.

[James Risner]

You can only retrain Scribe Scroll into Scribe Scroll. So, no.

blahpers post why.

[Troy Bacon]

I did not think so but I wanted other's opinions just in case.