Snapping Turtle Clutch


Rules Questions


Can this be used in a surprise round vs an enemy that has ambushed me? if they miss during an ambush can I make an immediate action at -2 to my grapple attempt against it?


Considering you need to activate styles as a swift action, and you haven't had a turn yet, Snapping Turtle Style isn't active, so no.


can it be active all the time in a dungeon?

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The wording in Ultimate Combat (p78), where style feats was introduced, says that "Although you cannot use a style feat before combat begins, the style you are in persists until you spend a swift action to switch to a different combat style." This would seem to suggest that you cannot be in a fighting style outside of combat.
Imagine trying to keep in a certain fighting stance as you walk through a forest or dungeon for several minutes, rather than the few rounds many combats last. Although a GM could certainly houserule it otherwise (outside of PFS) the feats are written with the assumption they will not be used outside of combat from my reading.


You can start suprise round in a style with combat style master feat.


Ah thanks a lot all, very helpful.


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Although you cannot use a style feat before combat begins

Since this is a ridiculous rule, I suggest using a ridiculous solution--be in constant combat with the objects around you. After all, they could be mimics.

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The other issue is that you can't take immediate actions when you are flat-footed. So even if you have Combat Style Master and are able to enter Snapping Turtle Style, unless you have something that prevents you from being flat-footed, you still can't take the immediate action until your first turn in the combat. Note that even Combat Reflexes does not remove the flat-footed condition. It just lets you take AoOs while flat-footed. There are things out there that do prevent you from being flat-footed to start a combat. The Defensive Strategist trait, for example, though that requires worship of Torag.


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blahpers wrote:
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Although you cannot use a style feat before combat begins
Since this is a ridiculous rule, I suggest using a ridiculous solution--be in constant combat with the objects around you. After all, they could be mimics.

Agree with this, danger lurks around every corner in Golarion.

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