Kingmaker: Kingdom Building, Size?

[Bill Nye 924]

Hi everyone, I've starting running through Kingmaker, my players and I are on the first adventure and are loving it so far, but I was starting to look at the second adventure, and I'm kind of confused about something. One of the XP rewards is for kingdom size reaching, I think it was, 200, which means the kingdom would take up 200 hexes, right? The maps I'm seeing in the pdf don't look like they have anywhere near 200 hexes unless I'm missing something.

Another question I guess would go in the advice section, but hopefully I can post it here to make things easier. Would you recommend the players settle many small cities or one large, multi district ones, when starting out?

[Thunderlord]

I think putting a city on a hex makes the size two. So players would need 100 hexes. Still ridiculous. There are probably upgrades to hexes that increase cities to metropolitan areas or something.

My group is working on only one city as having too many hexes would raise consumption too high. It's easier to start with one and slowly branch off.

[Klorox]

we ended the game before its natural finish, but at the time we finished (fairly early, I think we were in the second or third book) we had 3 towns, one at the site of our original base, the trading post, one not far in the woods on the site of a temple, and one farther south near a castle we took from bandits or some such... and lots of farms and other developments all over the place.

[Rathendar]

The size is indeed number of hexes. Thunderlord is thinking of the cntrol DC calculation i believe. The books have a loose suggested size reference for how large a PC kingdom is expected to be before/after them.

As someone running Kingmaker now, the 4 region maps together are approximately a 25x9 block of hexes. That's 225 at the end of the AP/beyond if they take Everything.

[Bill Nye 924]

Four region maps, Rathendar? Do those come throughout the multiple books, or is there one large one of all four regions at some point?

[Chemlak]

One in each of books 2 through 5 of the AP.

Also, just in case, it is generally recommended that people use the revised kingdom rules from Ultimate Campaign rather than the ones in the AP.

At which point it is then further recommended that you get Ultimate Rulership from Legendary Games.

[Bill Nye 924]

Alright, thank you all