Agile Maiden feat


Rules Questions

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Is the Agile Maiden feat only able to be used by Grey Maidens or can anyone wearing full plate benefit from the feat as well?


"you treat Gray Maiden plate as medium armor or heavy armor,"

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Cavall wrote:

"you treat Gray Maiden plate as medium armor or heavy armor,"

But can other characters use that feat for Full Plate Armor, or can the feat only be used by a Grey Maiden?

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Andrew the Warwitch wrote:
Cavall wrote:

"you treat Gray Maiden plate as medium armor or heavy armor,"

But can other characters use that feat for Full Plate Armor, or can the feat only be used by a Grey Maiden?

Likewise, can other people than Grey Maidens wear Grey Maiden armor?

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The prerequisites for the feat are: "Str 13; Dex 13; Endurance or armor training class feature; proficiency with heavy armor."

Membership in the Grey Maidens is not a pre-requisite. How do you plan on obtaining a suit of Grey Maiden plate armor?

"Gray Maiden plate is mechanically identical to full plate, and any effect that functions with full plate functions with Gray Maiden plate. Certain options for Gray Maidens function only when they wear Gray Maiden plate." (At my table, I would not allow Agile Maiden to work with any regular full plate armor.)


Andrew the Warwitch wrote:
Cavall wrote:

"you treat Gray Maiden plate as medium armor or heavy armor,"

But can other characters use that feat for Full Plate Armor, or can the feat only be used by a Grey Maiden?

Grey Maiden plate is its own separate type of armor (that just happens to be identical to full plate). It is not actually full plate armor. Anything that functions with full plate armor also functions with Grey Maiden plate, but the opposite is not true.

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Jeraa wrote:
Andrew the Warwitch wrote:
Cavall wrote:

"you treat Gray Maiden plate as medium armor or heavy armor,"

But can other characters use that feat for Full Plate Armor, or can the feat only be used by a Grey Maiden?
Grey Maiden plate is its own separate type of armor (that just happens to be identical to full plate). It is not actually full plate armor. Anything that functions with full plate armor also functions with Grey Maiden plate, but the opposite is not true.

So then say my Titan Fighter/Unchained Barbarian can't use that feat even if they are wearing Full Plate?


Andrew the Warwitch wrote:
Jeraa wrote:
Andrew the Warwitch wrote:
Cavall wrote:

"you treat Gray Maiden plate as medium armor or heavy armor,"

But can other characters use that feat for Full Plate Armor, or can the feat only be used by a Grey Maiden?
Grey Maiden plate is its own separate type of armor (that just happens to be identical to full plate). It is not actually full plate armor. Anything that functions with full plate armor also functions with Grey Maiden plate, but the opposite is not true.
So then say my Titan Fighter/Unchained Barbarian can't use that feat even if they are wearing Full Plate?

No, they can't. They must be wearing Gray Maiden plate, not full plate armor.

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Jeraa wrote:
Andrew the Warwitch wrote:
Jeraa wrote:
Andrew the Warwitch wrote:
Cavall wrote:

"you treat Gray Maiden plate as medium armor or heavy armor,"

But can other characters use that feat for Full Plate Armor, or can the feat only be used by a Grey Maiden?
Grey Maiden plate is its own separate type of armor (that just happens to be identical to full plate). It is not actually full plate armor. Anything that functions with full plate armor also functions with Grey Maiden plate, but the opposite is not true.
So then say my Titan Fighter/Unchained Barbarian can't use that feat even if they are wearing Full Plate?
No, they can't. They must be wearing Gray Maiden plate, not full plate armor.

Oh well, was afraid of that.


No. Maiden plate only. That's why I bolded that part.

You could fine some armour, doubtful the grey maidens will enjoy you wearing it and you'll earn some hate on sight for it.

Plus.. hope you're playing a female. They aren't called the grey cowboys.

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Cavall wrote:

No. Maiden plate only. That's why I bolded that part.

You could fine some armour, doubtful the grey maidens will enjoy you wearing it and you'll earn some hate on sight for it.

Plus.. hope you're playing a female. They aren't called the grey cowboys.

Any PFS legal feats that you know of would do the same thing for full plate?


PFS? Oh definitely not. They are very big on factions having their own corner, and Grey Maidens are certainly one of those corners.

In a way that's good, keeps everyone having their own flavour.

You'll need Grey Maiden plate.

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