1 - If I make one attack with a double crossbow, do both bolts benefit from smite evil's 2 per level damage on the first attack?
2 - What happens if I also use vital strike?
3 - What happens if I also use mythic vital strike?
4 - Are the answers the same with a double-barreled pistol?
A few things here. Shooting a double crossbow or double-barreled pistol has you shooting at -4 for each shot, so take that in mind.
Smite Evil lasts until the target is dead or you sleep, whichever comes first. It applies the bonuses to all attacks.
Smite evil only gets +2 damage per level if you use it on a few super evil things, you generally get +1 damage per level. I don't know where you are getting +2/level for the first hit.
So 1 + 4, you get the damage on both shots. You get the bonus no matter how many attacks you do.
2 + 5, you can't vital strike and shoot off both sides of your crossbow and gun. You only get the damage once. Vital strike is super bad for paladins.
3 + 6, if you get mythic, then yes. Mythic is broken and mythic vitalk strike is super broken so good luck finding agame running it.
Smite evil only gets +2 damage per level if you use it on a few super evil things, you generally get +1 damage per level. I don't know where you are getting +2/level for the first hit.
"If the target of smite evil is an outsider with the evil subtype, an evil-aligned dragon, or an undead creature, the bonus to damage on the first successful attack increases to 2 points of damage per level the paladin possesses."
you can't vital strike and shoot off both sides of your crossbow and gun.
Vital Strike only says it requires the attack action, double barreled pistol says "both can be fired at once as a standard action (the attack action)". So i'm not sure why you'd think that. The question was about whether or not both projectiles would be modified by vital strike or just one...
Welp, I thought that was just a +2 to all attacks versus those guys.
The paladin says nothing about smite evil not being multiplied on a critical hit, so it would work with Mythic Vital strike.
For the double qeapons, it would only be the first attack roll. Any time you have to roll another d20, you don't get the bonus first hit damage.
Welp, I thought that was just a +2 to all attacks versus those guys.
The paladin says nothing about smite evil not being multiplied on a critical hit, so it would work with Mythic Vital strike.
For the double qeapons, it would only be the first attack roll. Any time you have to roll another d20, you don't get the bonus first hit damage.
But both of the projectiles have been fired by the same attack action ... Surely at least one of these weapons would have both projectiles benefit from +2/level smite?
And if both projectiles are benefitting from +2/level smite, would both of their applications of smite be multiplied by mythic vital strike? (Given that, unlike vital strike, mythic vital strike doesnt specify it multiplies the "weapon damage dice", and instead multiplies everything else non-dice based by the number of damage dice rolled by VS.)
Double crossbow works different from double-barreled pistol. Something I didn't realize. I missed the second half of your post due to being on mobile.
Double crossbow says that only the first bolt gets to critically hit and do precision damage. It shows the two shots are different. You'd only get one bonus of the double damage of smite evil. It seems up to GM ruling if you can vital strike this, but it'd most likely end up with one bolt that got vital strike benefits followed up by a normal damage bolt.
Double-barreled pistol fires both shots as a standard action, an attack action. Vital Strike is a separate different attack action. You may not combine the two.
1) The second bolt only applies +1/level smite evil.
2) Only the first bolt is capable of being vital striked barring GM ruling for positive results (you can vital strike both) or negative results (can't vital strike either)
3) Mythic would work to multiple the damage on the first bolt, if GM allows it. Depends on what happens with 2.
4) Double-barrel pistol has no mention of using the same attack roll. You roll twice, and only get the bonus first-hit damage once.
5) Double-barrel pistol may not be vital striked with both shots.
6) See 5.
Double crossbow works different from double-barreled pistol. Something I didn't realize. I missed the second half of your post due to being on mobile.
Double crossbow says that only the first bolt gets to critically hit and do precision damage. It shows the two shots are different. You'd only get one bonus of the double damage of smite evil. It seems up to GM ruling if you can vital strike this, but it'd most likely end up with one bolt that got vital strike benefits followed up by a normal damage bolt.
Double-barreled pistol fires both shots as a standard action, an attack action. Vital Strike is a separate different attack action. You may not combine the two.
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Double Barreled Pistol doesn't say "an attack action", it says "the attack action" - Which combined with vital strike's "When you use the attack action" means the two should be combinable.
I would also argue that smite evil +2/level would apply to both projectiles, given that it calls out precision damage as something it doesn't multiply, inferring it does multiply other forms of damage multiplied on a critical hit, aka smite evil.
The logic is as follows (having found a firearm post by designer):
"It is one action, two attack rolls. I fire as a standard action, it is two attack rolls. If I fire as part of a full-attack action, it is one of those attacks, but two attack rolls"
- Bolded would imply it's still one attack, even if it uses two rolls. And if this is the case for firearms, then the double crossbow with its single attack roll should probably also be, UNLESS its lack of "the attack action" wording for the double crossbow implies its incompatible with VS, which I can't say is true or not, because I can't find a quote directly saying one way or another.
2 - If it's not a special attack action it applies to both BUT you could argue you're only rolling the base weapon dice twice, not the extra bolt's damage dice, so it could effectively only apply to one.
3 - As written it would probably multiply everything else for both projectiles, which is very powerful, but who knows with mythic being mythic.
4 - The same, but 2 is more likely to be true, because it specifically uses "the attack action" wording and should easily be combinable with VS.
Have I missed any RAW or designer stuff that people can quote to change this?