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What are the Starfinder Undead traits?
Because in Pathfinder they were the items listed below. But in the AP
Which makes me think that Immunity to mind effecting is no longer a base undead trait.
No Constitution score. Undead use their Charisma score in place of their Constitution score when calculating hit points, Fortitude saves, and any special ability that relies on Constitution (such as when calculating a breath weapon’s DC).
Darkvision 60 feet.
Immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms).
Immunity to death effects, disease, paralysis, poison, sleep effects, and stunning.
Not subject to nonlethal damage, ability drain, or energy drain. Immune to damage to its physical ability scores (Constitution, Dexterity, and Strength), as well as to exhaustion and fatigue effects.
Cannot heal damage on its own if it has no Intelligence score, although it can be healed. Negative energy (such as an inflict spell) can heal undead creatures. The fast healing special quality works regardless of the creature’s Intelligence score.
Immunity to any effect that requires a Fortitude save (unless the effect also works on objects or is harmless).
Not at risk of death from massive damage, but is immediately destroyed when reduced to 0 hit points.
Not affected by raise dead and reincarnate spells or abilities. Resurrection and true resurrection can affect undead creatures. These spells turn undead creatures back into the living creatures they were before becoming undead.
Proficient with its natural weapons, all simple weapons, and any weapons mentioned in its entry.
Proficient with whatever type of armor (light, medium, or heavy) it is described as wearing, as well as all lighter types. Undead not indicated as wearing armor are not proficient with armor. Undead are proficient with shields if they are proficient with any form of armor.
Undead do not breathe, eat, or sleep.
I hope they've changed the undead traits. Undead in Pathfinder being immune to mind-effecting when they have minds is weird.
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Undead in Starfinder have two rules governing them:
Undead Immunities (Ex): Undead are immune to bleed, death effects, disease, mind-affecting effects, paralysis, poison, sleep, and stunning. They are also immune to ability damage, ability drain, exhaustion, fatigue, negative levels, and nonlethal damage. They are immune to effects that require Fortitude saves (unless the effect also works on objects or is harmless).
Unliving (Ex): A construct or undead has no Constitution modifier and is immediately destroyed when it reaches 0 Hit Points. An unliving creature doesn’t recover from damage naturally, but a construct can be repaired with the right tools. Spells such as make whole can heal constructs, and negative energy can heal undead. An unliving creature with fast healing benefits from that ability. Unliving creatures don’t breathe, eat, or sleep. They can’t be raised or resurrected.
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There are 3 undead. 2 have "undead immunities" and "unliving". The third has "undead immunities", "mindless" and "unliving". The first 2 have an Int score, the third does not.
Why does the third have that extra block if they are sticking with the immunity to mind effecting abilities for all undead? Because all mindless gets you is immunity to mind effects And the loss of an int score.
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There are 3 undead. 2 have "undead immunities" and "unliving". The third has "undead immunities", "mindless" and "unliving". The first 2 have an Int score, the third does not.
Why does the third have that extra block if they are sticking with the immunity to mind effecting abilities for all undead? Because all mindless gets you is immunity to mind effects And the loss of an int score.
They are independent effects and you need to note them for future proofing. If you have an ability that treats mindless creatures as having minds, or ignores undead immunity to mind-affecting, this creature would still be immune because such an ability would only overcome one of its sources of immunity.