killing a prisoner considered what aligment ?


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Firewarrior44 wrote:
Right. I was speaking to how the rules system is a means by which characters are represented in the game world. And within that system Character can be both [Good] and commit literal genocide against entire races of monsters while still remaining [Good]. Ergo the act of killing cannot be an automatically [Evil] act in Pathfinder universe.

I agree that clearly all killing cannot be Evil given various rules elements (Smite Evil is most obvious).

However, genocide? Nothing anywhere says that's not Evil.


Deadmanwalking wrote:
Firewarrior44 wrote:
Right. I was speaking to how the rules system is a means by which characters are represented in the game world. And within that system Character can be both [Good] and commit literal genocide against entire races of monsters while still remaining [Good]. Ergo the act of killing cannot be an automatically [Evil] act in Pathfinder universe.

I agree that clearly all killing cannot be Evil given various rules elements (Smite Evil is most obvious).

However, genocide? Nothing anywhere says that's not Evil.

I figure he means that the universe isn't going to bat a metaphysical eye if you were to take a bunch of crusader paladins into the Abyss and just shoot first, ask questions never before you're inevitably overwhelmed.


The better question might be, "Staring another allignment thread is what allignment?"

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Tarik Blackhands wrote:
I figure he means that the universe isn't going to bat a metaphysical eye if you were to take a bunch of crusader paladins into the Abyss and just shoot first, ask questions never before you're inevitably overwhelmed.

Evil Outsiders are a pretty different case from most other things, and I'm not sure killing them in job lots could be properly considered genocide since they aren't a species in most ways that term means anything.

But even in regards to fiends, they can in theory redeem themselves. I think that makes killing them absent evidence of actual crimes pretty dubious, morally speaking. Now more than 99% of the time you're gonna have that evidence pretty readily at hand (including in the Abyss)...but still.

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Daw wrote:
The better question might be, "Staring another allignment thread is what allignment?"

I'd argue for CN, generally speaking.

Unless it's with malicious intent, then it's CE.

;)


"Genocide' is a bit hyperbolic but basically I was trying to convey that mass slaughter of monsters is definitely an action that [Good] condones.

For example going on a quest to kill off the evil Orcish / goblin hoards is a pretty common trope (Heck Oath against Savagery is explicitly for Paladins who want to do just that). Or even just exterminating monsters in a lair, like say a dragon in their dungeon.


another topic but same thread.

before we play this campaign who killing prisoner. i got captured in previous campaign, they (chaotic evil cultist) manage to capture me after total party kill (i was the only survivor). they didn't kill me but torturing me for information.

they didn't kill me.

at this point i got confused on my morale point.


Deadmanwalking wrote:
Daw wrote:
The better question might be, "Staring another allignment thread is what allignment?"

I'd argue for CN, generally speaking.

Unless it's with malicious intent, then it's CE.

;)

Not Lawful for the desire to put everything into nice neat little packages of answers?

Joking, mostly. Ha.

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Mbertorch wrote:

Not Lawful for the desire to put everything into nice neat little packages of answers?

Joking, mostly. Ha.

Nah, these threads are pretty much harbingers of Chaos incarnate on the world.

Also joking...mostly.


Deadmanwalking wrote:
Mbertorch wrote:

Not Lawful for the desire to put everything into nice neat little packages of answers?

Joking, mostly. Ha.

Nah, these threads are pretty much harbingers of Chaos incarnate on the world.

Also joking...mostly.

i believe this thread lawfull like iori in the world.

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