Empyreal Lord Neshen Question


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A friend of mine claims that he read somewhere once that Neshen was basically Ragathiel's panic button. That Ragathiel told Neshen that, should he fall into evil, Neshen was to immediately put him down.

Now, given all we know about Ragathiel, I believe him, but I'm curious about where this information comes from and he can't for the life of him remember. I've scoured all the campaign settings and player companions but there's basically nothing on Neshen other than he exists and his domains. He thinks it might have been from a PFS module but he's not even sure which season so I wouldn't know where to begin.

So, is he crazy, or can someone link me to information on Neshen?


Desril wrote:

A friend of mine claims that he read somewhere once that Neshen was basically Ragathiel's panic button. That Ragathiel told Neshen that, should he fall into evil, Neshen was to immediately put him down.

Now, given all we know about Ragathiel, I believe him, but I'm curious about where this information comes from and he can't for the life of him remember. I've scoured all the campaign settings and player companions but there's basically nothing on Neshen other than he exists and his domains. He thinks it might have been from a PFS module but he's not even sure which season so I wouldn't know where to begin.

So, is he crazy, or can someone link me to information on Neshen?

I think your friend is confusing Neshen with Arqueros. Apparently, the other Empyreal Lords were convinced to allow Ragathiel into their ranks after Arqueros vouched for him and swore an oath that he would keep an eye on Ragathiel to ensure he didn't stray from Good.


He says he doesn't remember ever seeing the name Arqueros before, but admits that seems to be what happened.

So is there *any* information on Neshen at all, aside from the mechanics of his worship?


There's a bit about him in Chronicle of the Righteous, in the section on Lesser Empyreal Lords.


Is it more than this?


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RotR wrote:
Neshen's followers are those who desire to turn their lives around and embrace the path of light. The knights of the Steel Lash may require them to undergo physical duress and difficult obedience, in a process that can take years, but those who come to him eventually reach their coveted atonement.

Admitably though, this doesnt say much.

PD


Thanks! Awesome!


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Anyone else find is odd that the Knight of the Steel Lash, whose symbol is a steel lash, has the ranseur as his favored weapon?


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Ouachitonian wrote:
Anyone else find is odd that the Knight of the Steel Lash, whose symbol is a steel lash, has the ranseur as his favored weapon?

Well, using a whip for flagellation isn't necessarily the same thing as using it to defeat (non-repentant) evil. I mean, a hypothetical deity might be all about magical crystals and have a crystal as their holy symbol but still not be all about using a crystal to knock people's brains out.


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So there really is quite little about him. Interesting. Well, it'll give more weight to the argument I'll make IC then!

(Essentially the PC in question is rather...violent and thinks people can't be redeemed without being made to suffer for it. I'm going to put forward the argument that Neshen's teachings aren't to inflict pain upon others, but more literally Christ-like and about enduring pain for the sake of others. You don't lash the evil out of the necromancer, you lash yourself to repent not only for your own failings, but to beg forgiveness for the necromancer!)

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