How unbalanced would it be to use PF style point buy?


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With the addition of theme bonuses after racial bonuses as well.

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Fairly unbalanced as compared to the base game's point-buy, but less so than rolling for stats.

Really, any method of point buy tends to work fine as long as everyone is using it...though the standard Pathfinder point buy does kinda pigeonhole races a bit more than the Starfinder version.


Really unbalanced.

Starfinder is balanced around far lower numbers than Pathfinder.


Depends on how many points you get.


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The question is, why?


Why not just roll ability scores. :-)

Works for us!


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Do you really want a list of reasons why people allocate stats instead of rolling for them? Because I think that discussion has already happened a hundred times.


I was thinking 20 point buy, it leads to similar values to Starfinder Point buy when you try to maximize a single score but allows you to have one more decent score when thinning out your numbers.


Are you allowing dumping stats down to 7? And 18s before racial modifiers?


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I think Mark Seifter mentioned that they were using a point-buy system in the early stages of Starfinder testing, but that it ultimately got left behind because it was deemed too complicated (and one of the goals of Starfinder is to make the game more accessible).

I think Mark also mentioned that they liked the system a lot, though. And that they might have a blog post or something spelling it out as an optional rule for people to use (much like the blog post they had regarding a different way of running Automatic Bonus Progression costs).

I, for one, would be very interested in seeing what that point-buy system was like!


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Matthew Downie wrote:
Do you really want a list of reasons why people allocate stats instead of rolling for them? Because I think that discussion has already happened a hundred times.

Starfinder Is not Pathfinder. :-)


Is there a fundamental difference in the effect of rolling stats in Starfinder?


Is there?


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captain yesterday wrote:
Matthew Downie wrote:
Do you really want a list of reasons why people allocate stats instead of rolling for them? Because I think that discussion has already happened a hundred times.
Starfinder Is not Pathfinder. :-)

No, but most of the reasons for preferring one over the other apply to nearly all RPGs.


Captain ? wrote:
Is there?

I don't know. That's why I asked. Is there anything about Starfinder that prevents the usual "I rolled all 3s and another player rolled all 18s and now the characters aren't entirely balanced" problems (or whatever the best/worst characters are in the particular dice-rolling system used)? Are characters powers less stat-dependent than before?

I'm guessing the answer is no.


I might consider allowing points from dumping stats. The trade is still 1 to 1 so they'd come out weaker in some areas

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