Ki Pool of Enlightened Paladin


Rules Questions


The Enlightened Paladin gets the Ki Pool ability at 4th level, which states:

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At 4th level, an enlightened paladin gains a ki pool with an effective monk level equal to his class level. The number of points in an Enlightened paladin’s ki pool is equal to 1/2 his class level + his Charisma modifier. By spending 1 point from his ki pool, he can ignore any damage reduction possessed by the target of his personal trial ability for 1 round. This ability otherwise functions as the monk ability of the same name and replaces channel positive energy.

My question is about the part where it says it "otherwise functions as the monk ability of the same name". A Monk can spend ki points to increase his movement by 20ft or gain a +4 dodge bonus to AC for 1 round. Does that mean the Enlightened Paladin could also spend ki points to gain those effects? Or can he only use his ki pool to ignore damage reduction on his personal trial target? I'm a bit unclear what the word "otherwise" entails in this context.

Liberty's Edge

Huh. I'd say yes, you can use ki points like that.


You can do the same things a monk can do with the ki pool ability.


blahpers wrote:
You can do the same things a monk can do with the ki pool ability.

Except make an extra attack as a swift action in a Flurry of blows.


Kageshira wrote:
blahpers wrote:
You can do the same things a monk can do with the ki pool ability.
Except make an extra attack as a swift action in a Flurry of blows.

not true. if he gains flurry of blows somehow, like multiclassing, he can use the ki pool for extra flurry attack.

the option is there he just can't use it normally because he doesn't have flurry of blows.


vhok wrote:
Kageshira wrote:
blahpers wrote:
You can do the same things a monk can do with the ki pool ability.
Except make an extra attack as a swift action in a Flurry of blows.

not true. if he gains flurry of blows somehow, like multiclassing, he can use the ki pool for extra flurry attack.

the option is there he just can't use it normally because he doesn't have flurry of blows.

Just to humor you, irrelevant on the subject, he can't as a enlightened paladin (the class we're talking about) use that feature because he doesn't have flurry of blows.

It's also a bad design that a class can't use one of his own class features unless he multiclasses into another class, both from a mechanical point of view and a lorewise point of view.

Imo it should be like Ninja, the extra attack being usable on full attack actions and not just in flurry so you don't need to be forced into multiclassing just to use that. Enlightened (Irori) Paladin isn't that good just to beging with, it trades some of the best Paladin spells, auras and armors just for adding Cha to Dex on CA.

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