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I know the Aspis Consortium are enemies of the Pathfinder Society. I heard of a couple other organizations that also opposed to the PFS, but I don't remember what they were.

Do those show up enough that taking them as a favored enemy makes sense from a character development standpoint? What about from a mechanics standpoint?


From what I recall, most Aspis Consortium members are human, so taking them as a Favored Enemy might work?

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You can't take "Aspis Consortium" as a favored enemy. There is a boon that allows you to select "Aspis Consortium" as a favored enemy. Any agent and known associates can be targeted as a favored enemy.

But yes, human is a good catch all.

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Gary Bush wrote:

You can't take "Aspis Consortium" as a favored enemy. There is a boon that allows you to select "Aspis Consortium" as a favored enemy. Any agent and known associates can be targeted as a favored enemy.

But yes, human is a good catch all.

I'm sure there's a ranger archetype somewhere that swaps your favoured enemy to being an organisation rather than a race. Probably in Ultimate Intrigue.

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Neriathale wrote:
Gary Bush wrote:

You can't take "Aspis Consortium" as a favored enemy. There is a boon that allows you to select "Aspis Consortium" as a favored enemy. Any agent and known associates can be targeted as a favored enemy.

But yes, human is a good catch all.

I'm sure there's a ranger archetype somewhere that swaps your favoured enemy to being an organisation rather than a race. Probably in Ultimate Intrigue.

you are likely thinking of Guildbreaker (Ultimate Intrigue pg. 41)...

Favored Organization (Ex): When a guildbreaker selects a favored enemy, he can opt to select a specific organization, such as a particular thieves’ guild, in lieu of a specific creature type. The guildbreaker must select this option for his first favored enemy, but he can choose either option for his later favored enemies. The guildbreaker’s bonuses from favored enemy apply against official members of this organization regardless of their creature type, but not against the organization’s allies, paid mercenaries, or forced labor. This ability only applies if the guildbreaker knows that the target is a member of the organization.

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Also, PFS requires FE Human (specific ethnicity)... not that scenarios call out the ethnicities of their mooks. I guess FE Human (Taldane) is your broadest (Andoran, Brevoy, River Kingdoms, Cheliax, half of Ustalav, urban areas of Varisia).

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Blake's Tiger wrote:
Also, PFS requires FE Human (specific ethnicity)... not that scenarios call out the ethnicities of their mooks. I guess FE Human (Taldane) is your broadest (Andoran, Brevoy, River Kingdoms, Cheliax, half of Ustalav, urban areas of Varisia).

ah...are you sure? I do not believe this to be true. Do you have a reference? Where is this called out?

(edit: bump Nefreets post to above this one of mine)

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^ this is incorrect.

EDIT: ninja'd by 40 seconds.

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I'm not even sure how someone would begin to believe that.

From the campaign clarification over the Dedicated Adversary feat maybe? Or someone got favored enemy confused with starting languages.

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You have to select a subtype of humanoid. Human is a subtype. Varisian is not.

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Ferious Thune wrote:
You have to select a subtype of humanoid. Human is a subtype. Varisian is not.

This is how I understand it working.

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Nester Reese wrote:
Neriathale wrote:
Gary Bush wrote:

You can't take "Aspis Consortium" as a favored enemy. There is a boon that allows you to select "Aspis Consortium" as a favored enemy. Any agent and known associates can be targeted as a favored enemy.

But yes, human is a good catch all.

I'm sure there's a ranger archetype somewhere that swaps your favoured enemy to being an organization rather than a race. Probably in Ultimate Intrigue.

you are likely thinking of Guildbreaker (Ultimate Intrigue pg. 41)...

Favored Organization (Ex): When a guildbreaker selects a favored enemy, he can opt to select a specific organization, such as a particular thieves’ guild, in lieu of a specific creature type. The guildbreaker must select this option for his first favored enemy, but he can choose either option for his later favored enemies. The guildbreaker’s bonuses from favored enemy apply against official members of this organization regardless of their creature type, but not against the organization’s allies, paid mercenaries, or forced labor. This ability only applies if the guildbreaker knows that the target is a member of the organization.

Oh cool. Didn't know about this as I don't own Ultimate Intrigue as it has not been added to the PRD yet.

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KingOfAnything wrote:

I'm not even sure how someone would begin to believe that.

From the campaign clarification over the Dedicated Adversary feat maybe?

That would be exactly where I got confused.

Revives some ranger builds I had.

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Scenarios go back and forth on how often Aspis dudes you meet are formal, badge-carrying members or just mercenaries. In several encounters only the boss of a team is an actual Aspis member. The Guildbreaker's bonus may not be very reliable.

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Blake's Tiger wrote:
KingOfAnything wrote:

I'm not even sure how someone would begin to believe that.

From the campaign clarification over the Dedicated Adversary feat maybe?

That would be exactly where I got confused.

Revives some ranger builds I had.

That's understandable, at least.

The Focused X Expertise feats from Monster Hunter's Handbook can give you interesting benefits if you invest in the more unusual creatures.

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Lau Bannenberg wrote:
Scenarios go back and forth on how often Aspis dudes you meet are formal, badge-carrying members or just mercenaries. In several encounters only the boss of a team is an actual Aspis member. The Guildbreaker's bonus may not be very reliable.

but it is available, and it does what the OP was asking for right?

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Percy Footman wrote:
Lau Bannenberg wrote:
Scenarios go back and forth on how often Aspis dudes you meet are formal, badge-carrying members or just mercenaries. In several encounters only the boss of a team is an actual Aspis member. The Guildbreaker's bonus may not be very reliable.
but it is available, and it does what the OP was asking for right?

Not really:

Quote:
The guildbreaker’s bonuses from favored enemy apply against official members of this organization regardless of their creature type, but not against the organization’s allies, paid mercenaries, or forced labor.

If the scenario makes a point of saying only the leader of the Aspis team is an official employee, the bonuses only count against that guy.

It's almost like the real world with fake independent contractors. Good enough to die for the company, not good enough for a steady job and badge...

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Sorry, yes I was thinking about the Guildbreaker archtype.

I didn't realize how few of the opposition would really be actual members. Hmm... This may not work out as well as I was thinking.

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Ehm Sven Nien wrote:

Sorry, yes I was thinking about the Guildbreaker archtype.

I didn't realize how few of the opposition would really be actual members. Hmm... This may not work out as well as I was thinking.

It would be much like taking Favored Enemy Orc or Giant...

you'd think we would run into more of those in the opposition - but often not...

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Well, now that I think about it, there are at least a couple of us that like to run blocks of related scenarios (like all those in the Blakros Museum). Maybe we could agree to take turns running scenarios with the Aspis in them.

Anyone have a list of all the scenarios with Aspis?

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Ehm Sven Nien wrote:
Anyone have a list of all the scenarios with Aspis?

Perhaps...

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Ehm Sven Nien wrote:

Sorry, yes I was thinking about the Guildbreaker archtype.

I didn't realize how few of the opposition would really be actual members. Hmm... This may not work out as well as I was thinking.

Sometimes it'll work like a dream, sometimes it'll be a complete dud.

In my experience 90% of Aspis members are human-like. They have the occasional disgruntled half-orc or half-elf with a racial sob story to explain favored enemy choices of course.

But for hunting Aspis FE (human) is probably just as widely applicable as FE (badge-bearing Aspis). And more applicable outside Aspis scenarios...

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Can we please change the subject? I'm feeling triggered.

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The Aspis Consortium wrote:
Can we please change the subject? I'm feeling triggered.

"Don't worry.. some of have an eye on you. "

Sights down 'Piecemaker', a MW Timeworn Railgun..

"Can you step in line with your compatriot there..... "

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The Aspis Consortium wrote:
Ehm Sven Nien wrote:
Anyone have a list of all the scenarios with Aspis?
Perhaps...

More of them than I thought.

Thx Muchly!

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If it helps, the boon version of Favored Enemy (Aspis Consortium) is better. It applies to their agents without any reference to badge carrying as well as any creatures directly employed by the Consortium, so most everything in their encounters.

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Ogren Runeaxe wrote:
If it helps, the boon version of Favored Enemy (Aspis Consortium) is better. It applies to their agents without any reference to badge carrying as well as any creatures directly employed by the Consortium, so most everything in their encounters.

Ah, I may just save the concept in case I ever get the boon.

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Ehm Sven Nien wrote:
Ogren Runeaxe wrote:
If it helps, the boon version of Favored Enemy (Aspis Consortium) is better. It applies to their agents without any to badge carrying as well as any creatures directly employed by the Consortium, so most everything in their encounters.
Ah, I may just save the concept in case I ever get the boon.

I think I've got one I'm not using, I'll PM ya.

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zefig wrote:
Ehm Sven Nien wrote:
Ogren Runeaxe wrote:
If it helps, the boon version of Favored Enemy (Aspis Consortium) is better. It applies to their agents without any to badge carrying as well as any creatures directly employed by the Consortium, so most everything in their encounters.
Ah, I may just save the concept in case I ever get the boon.
I think I've got one I'm not using, I'll PM ya.

Dang, I was going to offer my extra up!

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Ehm Sven Nien wrote:
Ogren Runeaxe wrote:
If it helps, the boon version of Favored Enemy (Aspis Consortium) is better. It applies to their agents without any reference to badge carrying as well as any creatures directly employed by the Consortium, so most everything in their encounters.
Ah, I may just save the concept in case I ever get the boon.

I have a character built specifically around this boon. There is a really nice long sword that you can get that fits it like a glove even!

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