Question about Razmiran Priest / False Priest Sorcerer


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Hi guys,

I've seen the Razmiran Priest archetype and I just wanted to ask a question about the False Channel ability in PFS.

So you get to use 1 spell level higher to activate the item, my question is how does this work if the spell on the spell completion item is on multiple spell lists?

For example, if I bought a scroll of Angelic Aspect, Greater I would need to buy this from the Sorcerer/Wizard list as per PFS rules. Would I then need to use a 9th level spell to activate this (as this is a 9th level wizard spell) or a 5th level spell (as it is a 4th level Paladin spell)?

Just wanted to get my head around this before I attempt to build it so any advice would be much appreciated.

Silver Crusade Contributor

For PFS, you buy from the sorcerer/wizard list if it's on there. More pressingly, if it's a 9th-level spell, I believe that scrolls are unavailable to PFS characters unless they appear on a Chronicle sheet.


Welcome to the church of the Great God Razmiran! I don't know what this talk of sorcerer/wizard spells is about. I get my spells through prayer. Ah, prayer. Such a wonderful comfort even in the darkest times. Such as when being tortured for spreading blasphemous slurs about our beloved GOD Razmiran. Wouldn't you agree?

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Kalindlara wrote:
For PFS, you buy from the sorcerer/wizard list if it's on there. More pressingly, if it's a 9th-level spell, I believe that scrolls are unavailable to PFS characters unless they appear on a Chronicle sheet.

I might remember wrong but I think you can buy scrolls of 7th level or higher after a certain level in the 13+ games, I don't have the guide with me ao I'm not fully certain.


Kalindlara wrote:
For PFS, you buy from the sorcerer/wizard list if it's on there. More pressingly, if it's a 9th-level spell, I believe that scrolls are unavailable to PFS characters unless they appear on a Chronicle sheet.

I understand I have to buy from the Sorcerer/Wizard list.

I guess the question is more what level spell do I have to use to activate the scroll. Lets change the example to a more common scroll - Lesser Restoration. It's a 2nd level Cleric and Druid spell (which is the level I'd have to buy for PFS) but a 1st level Paladin spell. What level spell slot do I have to use to activate it using False channel?

Silver Crusade Contributor

Sorry, I misread the original post. ^_^

I'm about 99% certain that you have to use its sorcerer/wizard(/cleric/druid) level for this purpose, especially since you would be using (for lack of a better term) a "cleric scroll". I would certainly rule that way at the table, given that everything in the PFS system points to this being the intended way to interact with such items.


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Kalindlara wrote:

Sorry, I misread the original post. ^_^

I'm about 99% certain that you have to use its sorcerer/wizard(/cleric/druid) level for this purpose, especially since you would be using (for lack of a better term) a "cleric scroll". I would certainly rule that way at the table, given that everything in the PFS system points to this being the intended way to interact with such items.

No problem :)

I had a feeling that this would be the case (and to be honest, if I had to GM it without a concrete ruling, I would rule it the same way as you). So the class is still powerful, just less powerful than people make out to be - Unless they have very generous GMs!

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