Agile Maneuvers

[William Jakubec]

Hi all,

the full benefit description for agile maneuvers feat reads :

You've learned to use your quickness in place of brute force when performing combat maneuvers.

Benefit: You add your Dexterity bonus to your base attack bonus and size bonus when determining your Combat Maneuver Bonus (see Combat) instead of your Strength bonus.

My question if I am reading this correctly is my 1st level monk with 16 dex would have a CMD of 7

Base = Bab(1) + Str(Dex3) + Size (dex3) =7 due to it specifically stating Dexterity bonus to your base attack bonus "and" size bonus.

Am I correct on this?

Thanks

[ArmchairDM]

William Jakubec wrote:

Hi all,

the full benefit description for agile maneuvers feat reads :

You've learned to use your quickness in place of brute force when performing combat maneuvers.

Benefit: You add your Dexterity bonus to your base attack bonus and size bonus when determining your Combat Maneuver Bonus (see Combat) instead of your Strength bonus.

My question if I am reading this correctly is my 1st level monk with 16 dex would have a CMD of 7

Base = Bab(1) + Str(Dex3) + Size (dex3) =7 due to it specifically stating Dexterity bonus to your base attack bonus "and" size bonus.

Am I correct on this?

Thanks

Agile maneuvers applies to CMB not CMD. You do not get to add your dex twice to CMD.

[ryric]

It's not saying that you add your Dex to base attack and your Dex to size, it's saying you add your Dex to (base attack and size). It's poorly worded but you don't count Dex twice.

[ArmchairDM]

ryric wrote:

It's not saying that you add your Dex to base attack and your Dex to size, it's saying you add your Dex to (base attack and size). It's poorly worded but you don't count Dex twice.

Oops, I misunderstood what OP was asking. Ryric is right.

[Gary Bush]

William Jakubec wrote:

My question if I am reading this correctly is my 1st level monk with 16 dex would have a CMD of 7

Base = Bab(1) + Str(Dex3) + Size (dex3) =7 due to it specifically stating Dexterity bonus to your base attack bonus "and" size bonus.

Just to clarify, it looks like you are using an unchained monk as the chained monk does not have a BAB of 1 at first level.

[Chess Pwn]

your CMB is +4 bab 1 + dex3 +size 0
If you're small then size is a -1 for a CMB of 3.

[William Jakubec]

ArmchairDM wrote:

William Jakubec wrote:

Hi all,

the full benefit description for agile maneuvers feat reads :

You've learned to use your quickness in place of brute force when performing combat maneuvers.

Benefit: You add your Dexterity bonus to your base attack bonus and size bonus when determining your Combat Maneuver Bonus (see Combat) instead of your Strength bonus.

My question if I am reading this correctly is my 1st level monk with 16 dex would have a CMD of 7

Base = Bab(1) + Str(Dex3) + Size (dex3) =7 due to it specifically stating Dexterity bonus to your base attack bonus "and" size bonus.

Am I correct on this?

Thanks

Agile maneuvers applies to CMB not CMD. You do not get to add your dex twice to CMD.

Yes I see that now. thanks for the clarification. Sometimes us greedy players see what we want in the rules :-)

[ryric]

Hey, there's absolutely nothing wrong with thinking your interpretation of a rule is too strong and coming here to double check. That's a mark of a good player.