How subtle is Variant Channeling?


Rules Questions

Contributor

Simple enough. I have a cleric who follows a god of thievery and other shenanigans, and I've been looking for ways to bump my sneaky skills. I notice that the Trickery Variant Channeling can grant a bonus to my key rogue skills.

So, question. How visible is it when you channel energy, either normally or Variant Channel? Can my cleric do a discreet Channel before telling a vital lie or sneaking past a sleeping guard, or is it accompanied by shouted hosannas?

I know what makes *sense*, but I wanted to check if there's anything official on this.


The only thing I can find is "A cleric must be able to present her holy symbol to use this ability." - I will interpret this to not only mean 'able to present', but to actually present.
Outside of that, it doesn't seem to be any verbal or somatic components required.


depends it seem son how you interpret the bit about presenting the symbol - can you present it stealthily? do you have to present it at all?

Silver Crusade

Yes, you have to present it.

Channel Energy wrote:
A cleric must be able to present her holy symbol to use this ability.


"be able to present"


Further, the channeling has the same area of effect as regular channeling, so your friends and enemies are affected by it too. I could swear that there was a feat or similar that allowed self-only channels, but I can't find it. If you could find that self only channel feat, I would think subtly kissing the holy symbol would suffice, but to activate an AoE channel, you present for all to see. Now, it does last for a minute, so you could reasonably channel from outb of sight, then move to use the skills.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Typically, the game developers side on the "anything that is magical is highly visible" side of things. No rules support for that, just a trend I've observed in their various clarifications and rulings over the years.

Contributor

I had a suspicion this would be the case. Pity. Well, thanks everyone!


been asking about this as well it now been ref to FAQ

link to my question Channel energy creates a wave of energy, can this be seen, is it visible magical effect.

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u6ws?Channel-energy-creates-a-wave-of-energy-c an

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