Slashing Grace + Boar Style Monk = Dex Bonus to damage roll?


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An unarmed strike is always considered a light weapon. Therefore you can use weapon finesse feat to apply your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to attack rolls with an unarmed strike.

Boar Style: You can deal blugeoning damage or slashing damage with unarmed strikes - changing damage type is a free action.

Slashing Grace: Choose one kind of light or one-handed slashing weapon (such as the longsword). When wielding your chosen weapon one-handed, you can treat it as a one-handed piercing melee weapon for all feats and class abilities that require such a weapon (such as a swashbuckler's or a duelist's precise strike) and you can add your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to that weapon's damage. The weapon must be one appropriate for your size. You do not gain this benefit while fighting with two weapons or using flurry of blows, or any time another hand is otherwise occupied.

Wouldn't this mean that a combination of the feats: Boar Style + Weapon Finesse + Weapon Focus [Unarmed strike] would enable a Slashing Grace [Unarmed Strike] to where now my Dexterity modifier applies to both my attack and my damage rolls?

Am I recreating the wheel here on the monk in that there's an easier way to get unarmed strikes to use Dex for attack roll instead of Str?


This is perfectly valid, and works well for the monk.

The only downside is if you want to use a different style.


Well that's where monk of many styles archetype can come in then right =)


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Be prepared for disagreement. I don't believe a feat that lets you do slashing damage with a particular weapon that does not normally do slashing damage changes that weapon into a slashing weapon. The weapon has not changed. It has not become a slashing weapon. You need something like Slashing Grace that actually says the weapon is treated differently.


It's debatable whether your ability to deal slashing damage with US qualifies for "Choose one kind of light or one-handed slashing weapon".
In any case, you realise that you end up with an unarmed Monk who can't even use Flurry of Blows, right? Just do add a few points of damage to each hit?

You could go Jabbing Style and simply live with a low damage bonus from ability score.
You could go Ascetic Style with Cestus or Bich’hwa to get Agile for a straigth 4k. It might even be possible to do that with a Sansetsukon.

Snowlilly wrote:
The only downside is if you want to use a different style.

RAW, the slashing damage part functions even when not in Boar Style.


Depends on your GM. If the GM allows, Deadly Agility feat (from Path of War 3rd party material) would be easier, it just requires a +1 BAB and Weapon Finesse to work.


Well... I found a better way...

Linnorm Style:

Your open stance invites opponents to attack you, and like a linnorm’s Death Curse, your retributive strikes punish those foolish enough to accept the invitation.

Prerequisite(s): Wis 13, Improved Unarmed Strike, base attack bonus +3 or monk level 3rd.

Benefit(s): While using this style, you take a –2 penalty to your AC against melee attacks. After a creature makes a melee attack against you, you can choose to add your Wisdom bonus to the damage from your unarmed strikes against that creature, rather than your Strength bonus. If you can normally add your Dexterity bonus to the attack’s damage, you can instead replace it with your Wisdom bonus. This lasts until the beginning of the target creature’s next turn.

Instead of Boar Style + Weapon Finesse + Weapon Focus + Slashing Grace... which brings up questions as to what happens when you want to do blunt damage instead (wouldn't that mean you'd loose slashing grace?)...

One can take Linnorm Style instead. Not for everyone since not everyone is willing to be hit first before hitting back but... since I'm going to be using the Monk's Oath -

Peace:

Restriction: The monk must strive to attain peace and may only use violence as a last resort. He can never strike the first blow in combat. If attacked, he must use the fight defensively action or the total defense action for the first 2 rounds. He must always give his opponent the option to surrender, and cannot purposely slay another creature that could reasonably be influenced to flee or join a civilized society as a productive member (obviously this excludes many monsters). Many monks who have taken this vow learn how to grapple and pin opponents, tying them with specialized knots that allow them to work themselves free after sufficient effort. Many monks of peace are vegetarians.

Benefit: A monk with this vow increases his ki pool by 1 ki point for every 5 monk levels (minimum +1).

in the first place... they do dovetail into each other quite well.

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