| TheMonkeyFish |
(**Note: Using PFS Rules and Restrictions**)
So... been working to create another character for my log book, and was looking at building some Support based Oradin builds. The first two archetypes that caught my eye were Martyr (Semi-Bardic Performance), and Oath of the People's Council (Full Bardic Performance).
Unfortunately, both of these Archetypes alter or remove the Smite ability from the Paladin... so Hospitaler is out of the question. That being said, it appears that both the Martyr and Oath of the People stack with the Warrior of Holy Light archetype, and thought it would be something to look into.... Looking at the bonuses, it appears they give the following:
Power of Faith:
+1 Morale Bonus to AC
+1 Morale Bonus to Attack and Damage
+1 Morale Bonus vs Fear
Bardic Performance (Inspire Courage):
+1 Morale Bonus vs Charm and Fear
+1 Competence Bonus to Attack and Damage
Do the Attack and Damage Buff from the Power of Faith abilities and Bardic Performance abilities stack? +2 Attack and +2 Damage using both Power of Faith and Bardic Performance? It won't be until level 10 which both can be triggered at the same time sadly.
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Bonus Question - Is there any way to get CHA bonus to AC (either by replacing DEX or by "Additional" benefits) other than Smite Even? Because Oath of the People completely removes the AC bonus, I'm curious if there is any other way to fix this.
I'm probably going to go with the Spirit Guide Oracle, and either go Lore Oracle with Life Shaman, or something else. Any suggestions for a mainly pure support build would be wonderful. TY! <3
CBDunkerson
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Yes, the attack and damage bonuses would stack. The bonuses to fear saves would not.
If you are going with Lore Oracle then the Sidestep Secret revelation allows Cha to AC.
BTW: The Community Minded trait might be helpful.
| TheMonkeyFish |
@CBDunkerson - Because of the PFS FAQ's, I would actually be losing Reflex Save bonuses by taking Sidestep Secret. Because Sidestep and Divine Grace give bonus to Reflex equal to CHA, I'd loss out on my DEX bonus to the saves. Overwall, I might just stick with +0 Max Dex bonus heavy armor, I just wanted to know if there was an option that didn't turn me into a walking tin can.
Trait wise, I'm pretty locked up. Going Half-Orc with Sacred Scars and Fates Fortune. +2 to Saves is almost too good to give up. Blessed Touch is going to be increasing my Lay on Hands healing too (core for Oradin "healers").
Thanks for the advice though CBD, I'll be sure to see if I can take that. It looks like it would be good, especially with extended Bardic Performance! (5 Rounds of Bardic Performance for turning on my ability).
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NEW QUESTION APPROACHES! - Do Feats, like Extended Bardic Performance, stack with Traits, like Community Minded?
CBDunkerson
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This is firmly in 'ask your GM' territory.
Stigmata is described as duplicating the effects of bardic performances rather than being such a performance itself. Thus, a GM might hold that they are two different things... though some might then also allow an equivalent 'Lingering Stigmata' type feat effect given that it would be equal in power to the other class option.
Of course, that logic would also indicate that a multi-class character could have stigmata and a bardic performance active at the same time... since they are different things.