Border Defender Clarification?


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Scarab Sages

I was hoping that I could get a clarification on the text under the "Border Defender fighter archtype"

"When he is wearing medium or armor, the border defender adds half his armor training bonus feats on combat maneuver checks for the selected maneuver."

>>"Medium or armor"<<

I assume this should be either "Medium Armor" or "Medium or Heavy Armor" or maybe "Medium or Light armor"

by chance is there a clarification on this or is it just to be assumed medium armor?


Somebody sloppily copy pasted the rules from Armor Master Handbook onto D20pfsrd. I tried to look on Archives of Nethys to see what the archetype is actually called, but still couldn't find it.

When all else fails, go to the actual source (Armor Master's Handbook) and don't rely on d20pfsrd as anything more than a reference. A reference that is often right, but also often modifies and edits materials, and is sometimes just flatly wrong.

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It's the Molthuni Defender, for the record. ^_^

It's probably too recent to be on AoN - the site is behind on updates.

As for the ability itself, it's "medium or heavy armor".

Scarab Sages

thanks, was told it was the same in the book, but if it's a completely different name the archtype got, no wonder.
Sorry for any confusion this might have lead to.


Azullius Koujou wrote:

thanks, was told it was the same in the book, but if it's a completely different name the archtype got, no wonder.

Sorry for any confusion this might have lead to.

D20pfsrd is not allowed to use the "proper" names of any material that is copyrighted by Paizo. Molthune is a country in Golarion, and thus d20 can't use that name on their website.

Years ago, when d20pfsrd was just a reference site and didn't sell anythign they were allowed to use that sort of content, but after becoming a business they lost the right to do so.

Scarab Sages

Makes sense.
Unfortunate that they changed, but given the amount of use the site got It was only a question of time before money would become a factor.

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