Building a Feline Wildsoul Vigilante (Preferably, Stalker)

[StygianRose]

Hi everyone!

I was hoping you might be able to offer me some insight about the Feline Wildsoul. I have included a link for those who have not yet bought Blood of the Beast which is, for the most part, an excellent book with only a few hiccups.

Now, lets get to why I need help!

I must admit, I am not the best optimizer so I am hoping that the people here can help me pick between Stalker and Avenger. My preferences is to Stalker, because my favorite Rogue Talent, Eerie Disappearance is a just a Vigilante Talent away.

I want to make as best use of the free Mad Rush (Pounce!) I get as a Stalker, so my understanding was that my best choice here would be to go Two-Weapon Fighting... But that is where I am wondering if I am making a mistake, since Stalker does not have any innate accuracy bonus?

My plan was to take advantage of Twisting Fear (see Spoiler) alongside Eerie Disappearance and Boar Style, Boar Ferocity, and possibly Signature Skill for Intimidate.

Can Stalker get enough accuracy that this becomes a viable option, with the +2 from charging negating the -2 from Two-Weapon Fighting?

Twisting Fear:

Twisting Fear (Ex): Whenever the vigilante causes an opponent to gain the shaken, frightened, or panicked condition, that opponent takes an amount of nonlethal damage equal to the vigilante's reduced hidden strike damage, as the stress wears upon its body. A creature can't take damage from twisting fear more than once per round. Panicked creatures that take damage from twisting fear are too winded even to scream as they flee in terror. Only a stalker vigilante can select this talent.

[Secret Wizard]

This has the same problems as those nonlethal Thug Rogue builds. You are basically screwing yourself vs. both mindless enemies (or otherwise fear-immune enemies) and also against enemies immune to nonlethal damage.

I think you'd be better off going Avenger for nonlethal prowess (with Fist of the Avenger and Sucker Punch), making it so much easier to use Boar Style. Intimidate would still be part of your toolkit, but not such an integral part of it, and you won't have to worry about accuracy that much.

Worst case scenario, if you fight something immune to nonlethal and bleeds, you still have the Fist of the Avenger damage as a back up.

If you are really sold on Stalker, I would personally avoid the Boar Style angle, and instead try to focus on natural attacks. A Toothy Half-Orc with Aspect of the Beast (claws) and Spirit Oni Master would have 4 primary natural attacks, which is pretty solid.

[Deadmanwalking]

I dunno if that particular build is that reliant on the Twisting Fear damage, honestly. Twisting Fear is solid, and nice to have, but nobody going TWF and pounce really relies on it for damage.

As for the basic advice...first, I'm not sure what Boar Style really gets you in terms of Twisting Fear synergy that Enforcer won't. Enforcer requires non-lethal damage but there are lots of ways to get that (Blade of Mercy is likely easiest)...and things immune to non-lethal are immune to Twisting Fear anyway.

Second, going TWF is a little risky unless you grab the right Talents. This is super tricky for a Wildsoul build since you lose half of them.

That said, some specific Talents that help with Stalker accuracy absolutely exist. Taking Cunning Feint and hitting 8th level lets you give up one attack and get to attack vs. flat-footed AC for the rest of the round, for example. Surprise Strike added to this makes for a very nice accuracy indeed...but we're getting into a very specific build there. Especially if you also want Eerie Disappearance and Twisting Fear. And you might want to grab Lethal Grace in there, too...

The Natural Weapon idea also isn't bad at all, though it only helps accuracy somewhat, meaning I'd still grab some additional enhancers if possible.

[StygianRose]

Honestly, I went Boar Style for Faux Bite + Claw through Slashing/Piercing unarmed strikes since I figured that 2 or 3 natural attacks was selling Pounce short and I'd get more out of it with TWF.

Spirit Oni Master does not fit the build theme at all, though. Not really keen on being a half-orc, either... So here I am, getting irritated with Pathfinder's feat taxes and inflexibility as a narrative system.

I have wanted to use Eerie Disappearance for a long time, and it is jack all good for rogues but great for stalkers with twisting fear.

The build was mostly focused on being a weird in-my-head medley of Batman and Kraven the Hunter, maybe with a little Rengar thrown in. Sadly, I am not sure how to go about it, as Feline is amazing... But its only unique features are 2 + 18; mostly 2.

Fun Fact: A Lv20 Feline Wildsoul with Signature Skill (Perception) can hear someone approach them while they are sleeping from 600 feet away before they take range penalties.

TL;DR - Boar Style was there to give the teeth and claws of a pouncing Cat-man without actually using the mess that is Natural Attack PCs.