Divine Grace


Rules Questions


Hello kind fellows!

I have a lvl 3 paladin who rolled quite good stats. We are now seeing that his Fortitude would be 3 base + 4 con + 3 Cha.
All his saves are crazy, so I was wondering if this direct interpretation of the rules are correct?

At level 3 he would have +10 on fortitude, +6 on Reflex and +7 on will saves.

And if it is the correct way of seeing it, do you guys think it is balanced?


Yes you are correct. Yes it's balanced just fine.


Yes. Paladins with divine grace and good Charisma have great saving throws.

If party or GM has an issue of some characters looking stronger than others, everyone involved should really look into the actual issue of rolled ability scores.


Yeah, Paladins have great saves. That's sort of the point of having a class feature that boosts your saves.


Thank you for your answers! I will let him keep his saves then :)


Stokkem wrote:

Hello kind fellows!

I have a lvl 3 paladin who rolled quite good stats. We are now seeing that his Fortitude would be 3 base + 4 con + 3 Cha.
All his saves are crazy, so I was wondering if this direct interpretation of the rules are correct?

At level 3 he would have +10 on fortitude, +6 on Reflex and +7 on will saves.

And if it is the correct way of seeing it, do you guys think it is balanced?

Yes its ruled correctly, no its not balanced.

Not because of Divined Grace, but because you rolled for stats and rolling for stats is inherently unbalanced.


Balance matters more than anything else.

Rolls eyes*

Your stats are calculated correctly. Paladins aren't the only ones that get nice flat bonuses to saves, they're just the ones people groan about.

Part of the paladin package is having great saving throws, much like the barbarian gets to will saves for raging and to fort saves. You'll find yourself shining I those situations. Other situations, like skill intensive ones, you will find less game time in.

Balance isn't always about numbers.

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