Which spells work under an Exciters Perfect Passion ability?

[Natan Linggod 327]

The way the ability is worded implies that only spells with an emotion component but no thought component can be cast while in a Rapture.

While I haven't done a complete check of all the spells available to the Spiritualist, even a cursory read shows the vast majority have both Thought and Emotion components.

So, unlike the Bloodrager, the Exciter seems to be limited to a mere handful of spells they can use while in Rapture.

Is that right? Or am I reading the Perfect Passion ability wrong?

[Natan Linggod 327]

Anyone?

[Garbage-Tier Waifu]

Probably whatever metamagic abilities allow you to use a spell without a Thought component. Not really sure what metamagic that might be, if it exists.

[UnArcaneElection]

^Intuitive Spell lets you cast spells unencumbered by the thought process.

[Natan Linggod 327]

Hmm looks like that's the only way to do it.

Pretty badly designed ability frankly, if I need to take a feat to use it.

Edit: Do Psychic Metamagic take a full round to use like arcane spontaneous casters?

[UnArcaneElection]

Yes. Some limited ways exist to keep from increasing the casting time, although unfortunately Occult casters do not have access to one of the prominent ones (Arcane Sorcerer Bloodline).

[Natan Linggod 327]

Cool. Thanks guys

[HeHateMe]

It's a badly designed archetype all around, unfortunately. I was really interested in it until I read it. -2 AC on a d8 HD, light armor using class? And to add to the suck, they take away spellcasting with that gimpy mechanic. I mean, they allowed the Bloodrager to rage and cast, but they don't allow the same thing for the Spiritualist. Stupid.