Saw the Willow Sourcebook online (out of print) and was hoping someone had attempted Willow (not the redheaded proto-emo, gay before it was cool, It's not witchcraft, it's "wicca" Willow, the epic adventure movie Willow as some sort of D20 or better yet Pathfinder.
So far no dice (pun intended) on my internet search.
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I am not sure what you would really need to adapt. Willow is a nelwyn, meaning halfling, and a 0 level character going into wizard. Madmartigan, Airk, Sorsha and pretty much all the other nelwyns going with Willow are fighters, Franjean and Rool are archetypical pixie rogues. Cherlindrea and Bavmorda are wizards. Rat dogs are perfect as goblin dogs.
It is one of the few fully adapted D&D movies.
willow himself Halfling Wizard with a dip into rogue or something with good sleight of hand skills. 1 level in each by the time willow is over.
By the end of the shadow war saga Willow is probably like rogue 1/wizard 12.
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I read the Willow sourcebook at some point in the very distant past. It was written for 1st or 2nd edition AD&D, so the stat blocks were very minimal. Any conversion to Pathfinder would be 99% made out of whole cloth, whether you do it yourself or find someone who already has.
IIRC, Willow was a 4th-level wizard (at most). Madmartigan's entry was the simplest of all: he is either a 20th-level fighter or 2 levels higher than the most powerful fighter in your campaign, whichever is higher. Those are the only details that have stuck in my head for this long, after 20+ years.
The book worked much better as a fan's guide to the setting, as it provided quite a lot of background fluff on the world and its characters, creatures, and cultures.
Yeah, I agree with the overall bit here, Willow is a simple Halfling Wizard, though I'd grab a trait that makes Sleight of Hand a class skill and drop a few points into the skill itself.
Past that, pick your flavor of marital for each person outside Willow, Cherlindrea, and Bavmorda.
IIRC, Willow was a 4th-level wizard (at most). Madmartigan's entry was the simplest of all: he is either a 20th-level fighter or 2 levels higher than the most powerful fighter in your campaign, whichever is higher. Those are the only details that have stuck in my head for this long, after 20+ years.
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If the campaign is running above 6th level, than it's not really a suitiable campaign for adapting either Willow or Madmartigan. The story that binds them is simply not suitable for the high-entropic antiques of extreme high level play.
This might be one of those settings that are truly suited for E6 play.
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yeah unlike other literary character, like Conan ect. that have tons of books about them and they doing all sort of crazy things. Willow is fairly simple I would say Willow fall into the lower level range. with Willow being level 3 or 4 character, I say two levels commoner, 1 level rogue or ending level 1 wizard.
Madmartigain being level 6 or 7. The bad guy knight level 5.
Willow has some very high magical showings. Shape-shifting a troll into a colossal Hydra/dragon whatever and poly-morphing a whole army into pigs come to mind.
They just handed out magic items willy nilley. Here willow have some acorns that can turn anyone to stone meaning a single shot magical item that casts a 6th level wizard spell. Willow is firmly set into high fantasy at least in the transmutation department..Love powder ect ect ect.
Agreed. I have looked for that source book but it's OOP. I'd love to see someone had developed the world setting with background info and details of the world during the movie.
Willow has some very high magical showings. Shape-shifting a troll into a colossal Hydra/dragon whatever and poly-morphing a whole army into pigs come to mind.
I'm not sure I agree. The context of the movie was that Cherlindrea's (sp?) Wand was something extraordinary, possibly an artifact. Willow was a bumbler with the wand, making all sorts of silly things happen, mostly by accident. I don't think its fair to attribute the two-headed fire-breathing monster to Willow's skill as a mage as he was clearly a novice in every other respect.
The army-to-pigs was a spell by Bavmorda, not Willow. Willow and his friend sorceress (I don't recall her name) used the wand to dispel the transmutations, and even that was under strict guidance and with the aforementioned artifact wand.
Cherlindrea and Bavmorda are wizards.
I've never read the novel(s) but I always interpreted Cherlindrea to be a sort of high-level fey, not a wizardess. Maybe an archdryad or something?
Okay, so after reading this thread I now totally have the Willow theme stuck in my head.
(love this movie!)
Every time I sink into Lucas hate...I remember Willow, and he earns a small reprieve.
Cherlindrea and Bavmorda are wizards.I've never read the novel(s) but I always interpreted Cherlindrea to be a sort of high-level fey, not a wizardess. Maybe an archdryad or something?
My point was that the world had very high magic showings Bavmorda didn't have the want when she pigged the army.
I didn't mean to imply that willow was an uber mage just that uber mages were a thing.
Burglekutt, as you may have noticed, has no class.
Aristocrat. Big time.
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Big, anyway.
Also... Read the first of Claremont's books. It was truly, unabashedly awful. Just starting out, it removes some very significant characters, and changes Willow's name, then keeps him around until some girl can become the main character, and not the now teenaged Elora, but some new whatever. After that book, I learned that if reading is a slog, it is okay to give up on a book.
Yeah I remember trying to read the first book and I think it opened with Sorcha and Mad Mardigan dueling for fun and then a dragon came to Willow in a dream and they traveled somewhere. . . .
It was really tough to read and it seemed to kill the feeling that the movie gave me by introducing things that were out of place. I put it down after 2 or 3 chapters I think.