So I am running a cartomancer witch, and I know I can add spells to my deck from scrolls if I find or buy them, but I just wanted to check if anyone knew any other methods for adding spells to the deck. Can I still get them from another witch's familiar? How does adding spells in downtime work, do you use the spell research rules for that to determine price?
I'm just asking because getting to higher levels (and in a game where like 90% of loot is rolled randomly, so I have no guarantee of finding scrolls in loot) it gets more expensive to try to find scrolls to add spells I might need to my deck. We just reached level 7, so I'm looking at 4th-level spells and there are a lot that I like.
I'm also using my Favored Class Bonus from being a Changeling to add a spell of one level lower than my highest level to my deck every level already.
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The cartomancer description don't say much, so I have looked the Bonded Witch to see an archetype that can share this problem.
That archetype say explicitly " but a bonded witch cannot learn spells from another bonded item". The cartomancer lack that text, so a lenient GM could allow you to learn spells from another cartomancer deck, but it is a bit of a stretch.
You can surely use the research rules to add new spells to your deck, but that is costly, too.
It is a serious drawback.
On the other hand, the Wyrmwitch's Hoard can trade spells with other Witch familiars
On the other hand, the Wyrmwitch's Hoard can trade spells with other Witch familiarsFrom what product?
Legacy of Dragons
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Legacy of DragonsOn the other hand, the Wyrmwitch's Hoard can trade spells with other Witch familiarsFrom what product?
Thanks, the printed copy is still traveling, and I haven't jet downloaded the PDF.
Probably I would allot trading spells only with other witches with the same archetype. It would be a limitation only if the group play in a area where Varisians are rare. But only The Golux GM can decide that.
Sadly, the ability to learn spells from other familiars is an ability of the familiar, not part of the spell feature of the witch.
Familiar Teaching Familiar: A witch's familiar can learn spells from another witch's familiar. To accomplish this, the familiars must spend one hour per level of the spell being taught in communion with one another. At the end of this time, the witch whose familiar is learning a spell must make a Spellcraft check (DC 15 + spell level). If the check succeeds, the familiar has learned the spell and the witch may utilize it the next time she prepares spells. If the check fails, the familiar has failed to learn the spell and cannot try to learn that spell again until the witch has gained another rank in Spellcraft. Most witches require a spell of equal or greater level in return for this service. If a familiar belongs to a witch that has died, it only retains its knowledge of spells for 24 hours, during which time it is possible to coerce or bribe the familiar into teaching its spells to another, subject to GM discretion.
I can see mixing the two decks together so that they can learn spells present in the other deck, but it isn't RAW.
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In the description for Cartomancer it highlights only one familiar ability that changes, deliver touch spells. As they aren't mentioned, this leaves all other familiar abilities unchanged, including the ability to learn spells from other familiars.
How can a deck of cards learn magic from another familiar? Same way a Dodo Bird learns spells from a Blue Ring Octopus: MAGIC!