Animal Ally and Druid


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If you take the Animal Ally feat and later multiclassed into Druid and chose an animal not on the Animal Ally list, would you gain two animal companions as per the FAQ (though the specific text in Animal Ally might override it), or a single animal companion off of the druid list at effective level equal to your level -2?

Since the FAQ is general and the feat is specific, and the feat makes no mention that the two don't stack even if you choose a different companion, I think specific trumps general and you would gain only a single animal companion of level -2, though I would like confirmation/denial of this.


Animal Ally wrote:
If you later gain an animal companion through another source (such as the Animal domain, divine bond, hunter's bond, mount, or nature bond class features), the effective druid level granted by this feat stacks with that granted by other sources.

Your druid levels would stack for an animal companion that meets both the feat and druid companion lists, and so it will be as if your effective druid level were [druid levels] + [levels not in druid -3].

If your animal companion choices were incompatible, then you get one companion at [druid levels] and one at [total levels -3]. However, a GM may require you to abandon the incompatible companion and add its levels to the other, or may opt to be permissive and allow the more exotic once to be the animal companion, thus resulting in the first scenario.

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Got word from a Venture Captain that it should work, since the FAQ is general, and the feat overrides it, since specific trumps general rulings and the feat specifically says that it stacks with druid without saying that the companion needs to be on both lists.

Thanks for the help though :-)


GhostwheelX wrote:

Got word from a Venture Captain that it should work, since the FAQ is general, and the feat overrides it, since specific trumps general rulings and the feat specifically says that it stacks with druid without saying that the companion needs to be on both lists.

Thanks for the help though :-)

The feat says nothing about stacking incompatible animals. There is no specific trumps general here. your VC is wrong, expect DM's to point it out if they notice it.

The feat you want if you're taking druid levels is boon companion to add 4 to their effective level.

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You need the companion on both lists, or you will experience table variance. A note from your VC won't help.


James Risner wrote:
You need the companion on both lists, or you will experience table variance. A note from your VC won't help.

it shouldn't even be variance it should just be a flat out no.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
James Risner wrote:
You need the companion on both lists, or you will experience table variance. A note from your VC won't help.
it shouldn't even be variance it should just be a flat out no.

If a rule being clearly written stopped people from misunderstanding(or ignoring or being ignorant of) those rules... 3/4ths of these boards would evaporate overnight. ^.^

Then again, this is english we are talking about.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
James Risner wrote:
You need the companion on both lists, or you will experience table variance. A note from your VC won't help.
it shouldn't even be variance it should just be a flat out no.

At 100% of my tables, it will be flat no. Non-Negotiable. But it sounds like the OP is asserting otherwise, which is why I said. Good luck with that, basically.


James Risner wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
James Risner wrote:
You need the companion on both lists, or you will experience table variance. A note from your VC won't help.
it shouldn't even be variance it should just be a flat out no.
At 100% of my tables, it will be flat no. Non-Negotiable. But it sounds like the OP is asserting otherwise, which is why I said. Good luck with that, basically.

Right but you're just one nut on the Internet.

Together we're TWO nuts on the internet.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
James Risner wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
James Risner wrote:
You need the companion on both lists, or you will experience table variance. A note from your VC won't help.
it shouldn't even be variance it should just be a flat out no.
At 100% of my tables, it will be flat no. Non-Negotiable. But it sounds like the OP is asserting otherwise, which is why I said. Good luck with that, basically.

Right but you're just one nut on the Internet.

Together we're TWO nuts on the internet.

In a home game I would allow it to stack. In part because I think if the specific non-stacking rule were part of a book and not a FAQ the feat would specifically say that it allows stacking regardless. And if not, I think it should. I would also rule that it does not provide animal companion levels for any class level which already gives animal companion levels after 3 levels. To allow a like-level companion eventually.

But, as far as the RAW? There is no stacking if your animal companion is not on both lists. So, it would be an absolute no at a PFS table.

Make that a third nut.

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