Dueling weapon property enhancement bonus question


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Long time player, first time posting.

My question is hopefully simple. I want to place the dueling weapon property on a weapon. The price is easy enough to figure out:

Weapon cost + (+1 enhancement cost) + (dueling weapon property enhancement cost)

80gp + 2,000gp + 14,000gp = 16,080gp

My issue is not with the cost, but rather with knowing what numerical bonus the weapon now has on it for the purposes of further enhancement. 14,000gp is the dueling cost according to PFSRD:

Dueling.

But the cost places it between +2 and +3 (in terms of price). SO, if I want to add more enhancements, bane burst & umbral for instance,

Bane Burst.

Umbral.

... which are +2 and +1 respectively, can I?

I'm hoping I'm just missing a simple rule somewhere. Does the dueling enhancement count toward the bonus? If so, does its cost go up if it's the 2nd enhancement? Or third? Or is it always 14,000gp?

Thorough answers and cited rules would be extremely appreciated. Thank you!


The cost for dueling is a flat increase beyond the equivalent "plus" of the weapon, it does not add to the "plus", just final cost.

Having trouble finding the specific citation, but there is nonother way to compute this consistently.


to find the price, remove the dueling price, add the upgrade price, re-add the dueling price.

Find the price of the item without dueling, add dueling price to that. Compare that to current weapon price and that's the cost.

All roads lead to the same answer is the real answer.


Java Man wrote:

The cost for dueling is a flat increase beyond the equivalent "plus" of the weapon, it does not add to the "plus", just final cost.

Having trouble finding the specific citation, but there is nonother way to compute this consistently.

Thank you for your answer.

Chess Pwn wrote:

to find the price, remove the dueling price, add the upgrade price, re-add the dueling price.

Find the price of the item without dueling, add dueling price to that. Compare that to current weapon price and that's the cost.

All roads lead to the same answer is the real answer.

Thank you as well.

So here's another question along those lines then...

Does the enhancement bonus and damage conferred by (bane, lesser) stack with the enhancement bonus and damage from bane burst?

bane, lesser

bane burst


Would say not, bane burst functions as bane, so if you enchant a weapon with bane (dragons) and bane burst (dragons) you have two instances of bane (dragon). Note though that bane burst is 3pp, so there is no official rule on this.


itsneverfutile wrote:
Java Man wrote:

The cost for dueling is a flat increase beyond the equivalent "plus" of the weapon, it does not add to the "plus", just final cost.

Having trouble finding the specific citation, but there is nonother way to compute this consistently.

Thank you for your answer.

Chess Pwn wrote:

to find the price, remove the dueling price, add the upgrade price, re-add the dueling price.

Find the price of the item without dueling, add dueling price to that. Compare that to current weapon price and that's the cost.

All roads lead to the same answer is the real answer.

Thank you as well.

So here's another question along those lines then...

Does the enhancement bonus and damage conferred by (bane, lesser) stack with the enhancement bonus and damage from bane burst?

bane, lesser

bane burst

Ignoring the fact those two "bane" abilities are third party and usual d20 rules are still the same, the enhancement bonuses provided by any of the magic weapon "bane" effects won't stack. So lesser bane is useless when there's also bane or bane burst on a weapon.

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