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Heh.

Hehehe.

Ha.

Ha.

HahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA


If Justice League IS going through massive rewrites, no matter the writer, I would be very very concerned at this late stage of the game.

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Freehold DM wrote:

Heh.

Hehehe.

Ha.

Ha.

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I understand you a little now. However I cannot hate the man who gave me Buffy and Firefly. I can, however agree that he is not as good as I thought he was.

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Okay WHAT WHERE DID THIS COME FROM

It looks like different movie altogether. And I...like it? Kinda love it, actually?

Like, the jokes are good? It looks more bright and hopeful?

Oh god I'm starting to have expectations.


Sigh

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Because they realized that people are really bored of dark and gritty?

Silver Crusade

I am wary of clicking that link.


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It's pretty sweet.

Lesson learned, don't hit Wonder Woman in the head.

Sovereign Court

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its not bad, nor that good, just meh.


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Hama wrote:
Because they realized that people are really bored of dark and gritty?

No people still like the Dark Knight, Winter Solider, and Civil War. They just got bored of pretentious nonsensical and stupid script writing. If you're going to do dark and gritty you have to be smart and Zack Synker was not.


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It could be good. Am just worried about the CG and the Superman was a symbol of hope retcon.


Rysky wrote:
I am wary of clicking that link.

it's quippy.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Rysky wrote:
I am wary of clicking that link.
it's quippy.

I saw.


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Watched the new trailer. Meh.

If they kill most/all of the Amazons just for a stupid Worf effect to buildup Steppenwolf as a bad ass, I'm gonna have to deliver c*ckpunches to the writers and both directors.


Ambrosia,

They might! Remember this is Zack Snyder we're talking about. That and a little Joss Wheton.

Honestly I like the trailer, but I still don't get why they're making Flash the silly one.


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

Watched the new trailer. Meh.

If they kill most/all of the Amazons just for a stupid Worf effect to buildup Steppenwolf as a bad ass, I'm gonna have to deliver c*ckpunches to the writers and both directors.

Gotta fridge them somehow.


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Grrr {begins c*ckpuncher training montage}

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

Watched the new trailer. Meh.

If they kill most/all of the Amazons just for a stupid Worf effect to buildup Steppenwolf as a bad ass, I'm gonna have to deliver c*ckpunches to the writers and both directors.

I wouldn't have thought so, but then we get Whedon and major reshoots...


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Yep. My thoughts too Rysky.


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*Takes Ambrosia to a secluded mountain-top to begin intense cross-training for maximum c*ckpuncher effectiveness


Never really understood why people loved or hated Joss Whedon. To me, he's just some guy that made some stuff I enjoyed. That said, it wouldn't surprise if Wheldon does fridge a couple of Amazons but keep Queen Hippolotya alive to warn the Justice League about the Big Bad. The first trailer even showed her alive fighting in the climax with a bunch of other Amazons, so chances are not every Amazon is going to die horribly, just some.

Anyways, I think the worst thing to happen to Whedon was people on the Internet deciding to make him the King of Strong Female Characters, which is funny and ridiculous in so many ways. Putting people on a pedestal is rarely a good idea.

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

Watched the new trailer. Meh.

If they kill most/all of the Amazons just for a stupid Worf effect to buildup Steppenwolf as a bad ass, I'm gonna have to deliver c*ckpunches to the writers and both directors.

Indeed. I hate, hate, hate how comic books (and other fantasy fare, like the Forgotten World movie) introduce new fantasy settings like Atlantis or a 'Land that Time Forgot' and then blow it up for whatever reason.

Come from a magical hidden land of cool people that have co-existed alongside humanity for millennia, like Attilan or the Savage Land (in Marvel) or Feithera (at DC)? Be prepared for your magical land to get destroyed / massively uprooted five times in ten years, the second a character from your land gets focus...

This also applies to planets, like Tamaran or the Skrull homeworld. May you be cursed to live in interesting times, indeed!

And now we know why everyone in fantasy worlds live in places like New York City. It may get pounded into dust every couple of years, but at least they get rebuilt. If you lived in a made-up place like Bialya or Qurac, you're screwed!

Heck, even seeing Amazons getting shot and killed in the beginning of Wonder Woman bugged me, if only because they are all thousands of years old and utterly irreplaceable.

I was intrigued by the name drop of the Green Lanterns, in the trailer, at least.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Ambrosia,

They might! Remember this is Zack Snyder we're talking about. That and a little Joss Wheton.

Honestly I like the trailer, but I still don't get why they're making Flash the silly one.

sigh


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Rysky wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

Watched the new trailer. Meh.

If they kill most/all of the Amazons just for a stupid Worf effect to buildup Steppenwolf as a bad ass, I'm gonna have to deliver c*ckpunches to the writers and both directors.

I wouldn't have thought so, but then we get Whedon and major reshoots...

FINALLY!

It is so good to finally get someone to admit whedon isn't the golden child!


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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Grrr {begins c*ckpuncher training montage}

forget justice league.

I want to see Ambrosia Slaad in The C*ckpuncher!


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Freehold DM wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Grrr {begins c*ckpuncher training montage}

forget justice league.

I want to see Ambrosia Slaad in The C*ckpuncher!

I'm not fighting Steven Seagal for the title. But I wouldn't mind replacing Finn Jones as the Iron Fist.

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I think Whedon had/has legitimate skills and a talent for good story telling. But he's reached a point in his career where he doesn't have to listen to editors & advisors anymore, he seems to be believing his hype as infallible and a "feminist", and he can mostly autopilot it. Not that making major films isn't hard work, he just doesn't seem to be growing & experimenting anymore. He's in his Fat Elvis years.


LOL@Freehold

Also I just want...well not a SERIOUS Flash but a Barry Allen that doesn't screw things up. Is that too much to ask?


Set wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

Watched the new trailer. Meh.

If they kill most/all of the Amazons just for a stupid Worf effect to buildup Steppenwolf as a bad ass, I'm gonna have to deliver c*ckpunches to the writers and both directors.

Indeed. I hate, hate, hate how comic books (and other fantasy fare, like the Forgotten World movie) introduce new fantasy settings like Atlantis or a 'Land that Time Forgot' and then blow it up for whatever reason.

Come from a magical hidden land of cool people that have co-existed alongside humanity for millennia, like Attilan or the Savage Land (in Marvel) or Feithera (at DC)? Be prepared for your magical land to get destroyed / massively uprooted five times in ten years, the second a character from your land gets focus...

This also applies to planets, like Tamaran or the Skrull homeworld. May you be cursed to live in interesting times, indeed!

And now we know why everyone in fantasy worlds live in places like New York City. It may get pounded into dust every couple of years, but at least they get rebuilt. If you lived in a made-up place like Bialya or Qurac, you're screwed!

Heck, even seeing Amazons getting shot and killed in the beginning of Wonder Woman bugged me, if only because they are all thousands of years old and utterly irreplaceable.

I was intrigued by the name drop of the Green Lanterns, in the trailer, at least.

Meh. I really don't mind that trope that much in comic books. It never lasts and ultimately the status quo will return eventually with everything returning to as it was. NYC will be rebuilt, the Inhumans will live on the Moon again, Batgirl will walk again, the Fantastic Four will come back, Captain America won't be a Nazi forever and death means nothing if your a popular character, looking at you Superman.


Delightful wrote:
Meh. I really don't mind that trope that much in comic books. It never lasts and ultimately the status quo will return eventually with everything returning to as it was. NYC will be rebuilt, the Inhumans will live on the Moon again, Batgirl will walk again, the Fantastic Four will come back, Captain America won't be a Nazi forever and death means nothing if your a popular character, looking at you Superman.

I find that a little amusing, since Attilan wasn't on the moon, but in the Himalayas until sometime in the 80s. Why is that the status quo that will return?


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Regarding the changing status quo, both Stranger Things Trailer and Thor Ragnarok trailer just dropped. They completely blew Justice League of the water...


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Grrr {begins c*ckpuncher training montage}

forget justice league.

I want to see Ambrosia Slaad in The C*ckpuncher!

I'm not fighting Steven Seagal for the title. But I wouldn't mind replacing Finn Jones as the Iron Fist.

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I think Whedon had/has legitimate skills and a talent for good story telling. But he's reached a point in his career where he doesn't have to listen to editors & advisors anymore, he seems to be believing his hype as infallible and a "feminist", and he can mostly autopilot it. Not that making major films isn't hard work, he just doesn't seem to be growing & experimenting anymore. He's in his Fat Elvis years.

Wow. Never really seen anyone put it that way, but yeah, Whedon is definitely in his Fat Elvis phrase and could end up like George Lucas next.


Delightful wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Grrr {begins c*ckpuncher training montage}

forget justice league.

I want to see Ambrosia Slaad in The C*ckpuncher!

I'm not fighting Steven Seagal for the title. But I wouldn't mind replacing Finn Jones as the Iron Fist.

---

I think Whedon had/has legitimate skills and a talent for good story telling. But he's reached a point in his career where he doesn't have to listen to editors & advisors anymore, he seems to be believing his hype as infallible and a "feminist", and he can mostly autopilot it. Not that making major films isn't hard work, he just doesn't seem to be growing & experimenting anymore. He's in his Fat Elvis years.

Wow. Never really seen anyone put it that way, but yeah, Whedon is definitely in his Fat Elvis phrase and could end up like George Lucas next.

Pretty sure that happened with the last couple seasons of Buffy, he's been coasting and been extremely hit or miss ever since.


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captain yesterday wrote:

It's pretty sweet.

Lesson learned, don't hit Wonder Woman in the head.

Always a wise choice, since she got out of the Marston years when that was how anyone took her down: hitting her 'Amazonian weak spot' aka the back of her head.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Also I just want... well not a SERIOUS Flash but a Barry Allen that doesn't screw things up. Is that too much to ask?

That Barry died in the Crisis on Infinite Earths, and apparently isn't coming back. In the current comics, he's written as a bit of a goof who even Wonder Woman mocks for being kind of naïve and hopeless.

When I was a teen, both Barry and Hal were experienced adult heroes that I could look up to. Now the former's barely-competent, and the latter is an obnoxious frat-boy who letches on Wonder Woman, gets punked by Batman (who literally grabs the ring off of his finger to look at it) and ends up screwing up so egregiously that it trashes the entire Justice League's reputation and leads to him leaving.

Technically, there are characters named Barry Allen and Hal Jordan back alive again in the modern-day DCU (and soon to appear on-screen), but they are, IMO, far more insulting to the memories of the original characters of those names than legacies like Wally West, John Stewart or Kyle Rayner ever have been.


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Delightful wrote:
Meh. I really don't mind that trope that much in comic books. It never lasts and ultimately the status quo will return eventually with everything returning to as it was. NYC will be rebuilt, the Inhumans will live on the Moon again, Batgirl will walk again, the Fantastic Four will come back, Captain America won't be a Nazi forever and death means nothing if your a popular character, looking at you Superman.
I find that a little amusing, since Attilan wasn't on the moon, but in the Himalayas until sometime in the 80s. Why is that the status quo that will return?

Don't you worry jeff. Once Marvel comics hits rock bottom in sales I think we can all expect a big reboot ala DC's 52. Peter Parker might even return to being a teenager. Huzzah!!!


Great trailer, can't wait to see the movie.

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Okay, I have to agree that the Themyscira part annoys the jeebus out of me. I hate that "prove how bad this villain is by killing some other cool folks" trope so much. And I liked that Themyscira stayed safe in Wonder Woman, making it possible for her to return.

Sigh.

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It's even worse. The whole "fridging" (so called because of the Green Lantern incident) is the infuriating twist on the trope that to prove how truly monstrous a villain is, you need to murder a woman or women.

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Yeaah, I have no interest in seeing the badass women of Paradise Island being "stuffed to fridges".


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Mark Thomas 66 wrote:

It's even worse. The whole "fridging" (so called because of the Green Lantern incident) is the infuriating twist on the trope that to prove how truly monstrous a villain is, you need to murder a woman or women.

And people wonder why I hate kyle.


Set,

Yeah I remember that too. Of course I remember Wally alternating between serious and goof. But now...yeah this is what we got.


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!!!THIS IS NOT A JOKE!!!

Henry Cavill's inability to remove his mustache in the upcoming Justice League has forced the effects department to digitally remove it in the film. No s%!#, this is costing them millions.

Alright, that last part is probably BS but the rest is true and hilarious in my opinion.


Well, the unconfirmed but widely reported rumor is DC/WB have already spent over $25M in Justice League reshoots with Whedon behind the camera, and they aren't done yet.

In another reality, Cavill UnMoustache is probably a The Tick or Grant Morrison-era Doom Patrol villain.

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Justice League Reshoots Adds Months and Millions To Production

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Gods dammit Whedon.

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If it nets us a better movie than Snyder would have, I'm OK with it. And let's be honest, it will.

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That'd be debatable.


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Whedon can polish Snyder's coprolite until it's smooth and shiny, but that won't change what it's made from.

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Eh, I don't worry about JL no more. Flashpoint is coming, so they can change stuff if they want.

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