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Adding millions maybe they are just reshooting all Cavill's parts to include a sweet 'stache


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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Whedon can polish Snyder's coprolite until it's smooth and shiny, but that won't change what it's made from.

Dread Lady Slaad, these are reshoots. Thry are changing the movie on a fundamental level. We wont know the composition of the film until reshooting is complete, but that doesnt matter to most. If the movie is awful, it will be Snyder's fault. If it is awesome, it will be Whedon that saved it.

To most, Snyder can do no right and Whedon can do no wrong to the point that if Whedon overspends on his reshoots and the movie is cancelled or delayed indefinitely, that too will somehow be Snyder's fault, Age of Whedtron Ultron bedamned.

My cup of wrath with continue to bubble.


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Rysky wrote:
That'd be debatable.

*Glances over at AVENGERS : AGE OF ULTRON*

Yup.

My biggest issue with A:AOU was that people should have been walking out of that movie going: "GOOD GOD. I really hope the Avengers never have to fight him again. Ultron was absolutely CHILLING."

Instead, we got snarky Ultron with ONE good one liner.

Yeah as much as I love that first AVENGERS movie I'm so glad that Whedon has moved on from Marvel Studios.


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Whedon is likely only doing this as a (paid) favor/thanks for getting the Batgirl movie gig... which [REDACTED CURSING]

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You do know what coprolite is, right? :)


Worth it if we get a real Superman.


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Orville Redenbacher wrote:
Adding millions maybe they are just reshooting all Cavill's parts to include a sweet 'stache

Imagine if we made him blue and had a shot of his dong in every scene!


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

Whedon is likely only doing this as a (paid) favor/thanks for getting the Batgirl movie gig... which [REDACTED CURSING]

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You do know what coprolite is, right? :)

Yes, I do.


Manly Balls, Executive Producer wrote:
Imagine if we made him blue and had a shot of his dong in every scene!

Which Superman comic have YOU been reading? ;-)


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Manly Balls, Executive Producer wrote:
Imagine if we made him blue and had a shot of his dong in every scene!

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?


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bugleyman wrote:
Manly Balls, Executive Producer wrote:
Imagine if we made him blue and had a shot of his dong in every scene!
Which Superman comic have YOU been reading? ;-)

My guess is he was likely reading something written by Grant Morrison while taking bong hits off smouldering snippings of Alan Moore's beard. Or vice versa.

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Whedon can polish Snyder's coprolite until it's smooth and shiny, but that won't change what it's made from.

Calcite, silica?


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

Watched the new trailer. Meh.

If they kill most/all of the Amazons just for a stupid Worf effect to buildup Steppenwolf as a bad ass, I'm gonna have to deliver c*ckpunches to the writers and both directors.

The Amazons should TOTALLY get pwned by anyone meant to be at threat to the Justice League and the world. The Amazons are 100% overrated. ESPECIALLY the movie versions.

They quite literally bring swords and bows to gunfights and were killed by random WWI era guns.

In the original stories they had the contest showing that they were all on par with Diana with her just being the best of the best... and their peaceful society allowed them to increase their technology to amazing sci-fi levels of invisible planes and healing rays. The movie went with the demigod version making the rest of the amazons just... people. People still training the way the ancient greeks did... but just people.

If Superman level threats DIDN'T kick their butts than I would be terribly disappointed.

Delightful wrote:
It could be good. Am just worried about the CG and the Superman was a symbol of hope retcon.

That struck me as weak too... but to be fair, They DID show in BvS that people were worshiping him and painting his symbol on their roof in the floods and things like that. So I assume that he was a symbol for Hope to SOME people... just not the 'universal world-wide symbol' that he is in the comics.

Set wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
Also I just want... well not a SERIOUS Flash but a Barry Allen that doesn't screw things up. Is that too much to ask?

That Barry died in the Crisis on Infinite Earths, and apparently isn't coming back. In the current comics, he's written as a bit of a goof who even Wonder Woman mocks for being kind of naïve and hopeless.

When I was a teen, both Barry and Hal were experienced adult heroes that I could look up to. Now the former's barely-competent, and the latter is an obnoxious frat-boy who letches on Wonder Woman, gets punked by Batman (who literally grabs the ring off of his finger to look at it) and ends up screwing up so egregiously that it trashes the entire Justice League's reputation and leads to him leaving.

I'm torn on issue. While 2017 Barry is considered Naïve and a bit goofy... He's not THAT far removed from 1960's Barry. It's just that people who have that silver age 'good guy' mentality are seen as Naïve and stupid in 2017...

Would I rather Barry be treated as Naïve but 'good'.... or would I rather see him /shudder 'modernized' for this dark gritty crappy world?

/Eyes the rest of Snyder-verse... I'm not sure which is worse.


bugleyman wrote:
Worth it if we get a real Superman.

Don't like Captain Hypocrite, do you? Understandable.

Honestly though at this point, I think DC should just abandon the superheroes don't kill rule. Marvel did so from the very beginning with Ironman (though Doctor Strange and Spiderman decided to do things differently which am fine with) and even noblebright Wonder Women was killing soldiers left and right in her film. At least by losing the rule and having frank in-universe discussions about the use of lethal force when fighting space monsters and supervillians I won't be bothered by the blatant hypocrisy and thematic dissonance I keep seeing in DC films.

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Delightful wrote:

!!!THIS IS NOT A JOKE!!!

Henry Cavill's inability to remove his mustache in the upcoming Justice League has forced the effects department to digitally remove it in the film. No s+&@, this is costing them millions.

Alright, that last part is probably BS but the rest is true and hilarious in my opinion.

This is epic BS. MISSION IMPOSSIBLE can't use fake mustaches. (facepalm)

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Orville Redenbacher wrote:
Adding millions maybe they are just reshooting all Cavill's parts to include a sweet 'stache
Imagine if we made him blue and had a shot of his dong in every scene!

LMAO!!! There's only room for one big blue dong in comicdom.


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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

Watched the new trailer. Meh.

If they kill most/all of the Amazons just for a stupid Worf effect to buildup Steppenwolf as a bad ass, I'm gonna have to deliver c*ckpunches to the writers and both directors.

The Amazons should TOTALLY get pwned by anyone meant to be at threat to the Justice League and the world. The Amazons are 100% overrated. ESPECIALLY the movie versions.

They quite literally bring swords and bows to gunfights and were killed by random WWI era guns.

In the original stories they had the contest showing that they were all on par with Diana with her just being the best of the best... and their peaceful society allowed them to increase their technology to amazing sci-fi levels of invisible planes and healing rays. The movie went with the demigod version making the rest of the amazons just... people. People still training the way the ancient greeks did... but just people.

If Superman level threats DIDN'T kick their butts than I would be terribly disappointed.

That's not my point. My point is not whether the DCMU Amazons would lose to Steppenwolf, but why is the f!cking "fight" even happening? They are totally withdrawn from the rest of the world and have remained hidden, even after the horrors of WWI and and everything that has come after. Using them now just to make Steppenwolf "look powerful" by killing them all is sh!tty weak-ass writing. If you want Steppenwolf to look powerful, have him land at an American military base near a major city and totally raze the area. Kill everyone, military and civilians, adults and children alike. But DC and the writers won't do something like that because of the criticism they took from flattening Metropolis while the ManBro of ManPain™ was busy getting his punching on. So they are instead going to kill off, or nearly so, the remaining Amazons... not for some noble cause or to close their character arc with any meaning, but just to show how tough Steppenwolf is, and then Justice League as tougher when they beat him. An entire near-utopian tribe of isolated women warriors easily fridged by a single man with a war boner.

Look, if I was writing a screenplay where Steppenwolf appears and just slaughters the entire JSA or LSH in the first act for the sole reason of making Steppenwolf look cool and tough, I'd be rightly excoriated for it.

But hey, Diana is getting a long lost brother, likely with all her powers and the requisite DC standard-issued ManPain™, so that makes it better, right? And now with all the Amazons but Diana being fridged, he's totally motivated to get his punching on.

The Amazons deserve a better ending than a feeble slaughterporn first act in Snyder's & Whedon's cinematic turd. All the women and girl viewers deserve better.


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While I think "Wonder Woman's brother" is a horrible idea, the comics Amazons haven't been fridged, right? This new character won't be motivated by that, since it hasn't happened in his reality.


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
phantom1592 wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

Watched the new trailer. Meh.

If they kill most/all of the Amazons just for a stupid Worf effect to buildup Steppenwolf as a bad ass, I'm gonna have to deliver c*ckpunches to the writers and both directors.

The Amazons should TOTALLY get pwned by anyone meant to be at threat to the Justice League and the world. The Amazons are 100% overrated. ESPECIALLY the movie versions.

They quite literally bring swords and bows to gunfights and were killed by random WWI era guns.

In the original stories they had the contest showing that they were all on par with Diana with her just being the best of the best... and their peaceful society allowed them to increase their technology to amazing sci-fi levels of invisible planes and healing rays. The movie went with the demigod version making the rest of the amazons just... people. People still training the way the ancient greeks did... but just people.

If Superman level threats DIDN'T kick their butts than I would be terribly disappointed.

That's not my point. My point is not whether the DCMU Amazons would lose to Steppenwolf, but why is the f!cking "fight" even happening? They are totally withdrawn from the rest of the world and have remained hidden, even after the horrors of WWI and and everything that has come after. Using them now just to make Steppenwolf "look powerful" by killing them all is sh!tty weak-ass writing. If you want Steppenwolf to look powerful, have him land at an American military base near a major city and totally raze the area. Kill everyone, military and civilians, adults and children alike. But DC and the writers won't do something like that because of the criticism they took from flattening Metropolis while the ManBro of ManPain™ was busy getting his punching on. So they are instead going to kill off, or nearly so, the remaining Amazons... not for some noble cause or to close their character arc...

seems like they either piss you off, or they piss someone else off.

Bad position to be in.


thejeff wrote:

While I think "Wonder Woman's brother" is a horrible idea, the comics Amazons haven't been fridged, right? This new character won't be motivated by that, since it hasn't happened in his reality.

This is getting off topic but I think after more than 60 years of comics Wonder Woman getting a brother isn't the worst idea. Maybe I'm just more tolerate of the comics running out of ideas and doing weird crap (Nazi Captain America, Superior Spiderman, Commissioner Gordon becoming Batman) but this idea is tentatively ok to me so as long we get good stories from it.


Delightful wrote:
thejeff wrote:
While I think "Wonder Woman's brother" is a horrible idea, the comics Amazons haven't been fridged, right? This new character won't be motivated by that, since it hasn't happened in his reality.
This is getting off topic but I think after more than 60 years of comics Wonder Woman getting a brother isn't the worst idea. Maybe I'm just more tolerate of the comics running out of ideas and doing weird crap (Nazi Captain America, Superior Spiderman, Commissioner Gordon becoming Batman) but this idea is tentatively ok to me so as long we get good stories from it.

Not the worst, but pretty horrible.

One of the troubles, compared to those others, is that this one is likely to stick around indefinitely. Or at least be brought back every so often. It's not just a story arc, but a new character.


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Is his name, by chance, Cousin Oliver?


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
*hilarity*

*snerk* "ManPain™"

Well. Played.


thejeff wrote:
Delightful wrote:
thejeff wrote:
While I think "Wonder Woman's brother" is a horrible idea, the comics Amazons haven't been fridged, right? This new character won't be motivated by that, since it hasn't happened in his reality.
This is getting off topic but I think after more than 60 years of comics Wonder Woman getting a brother isn't the worst idea. Maybe I'm just more tolerate of the comics running out of ideas and doing weird crap (Nazi Captain America, Superior Spiderman, Commissioner Gordon becoming Batman) but this idea is tentatively ok to me so as long we get good stories from it.

Not the worst, but pretty horrible.

One of the troubles, compared to those others, is that this one is likely to stick around indefinitely. Or at least be brought back every so often. It's not just a story arc, but a new character.

Guys, this is DC. New characters at invariably sucked into a black hole if they are not popular.

Don't like it? Don't worry. He won't be around much longer.


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quibblemuch wrote:
Is his name, by chance, Cousin Oliver?

I'm sure he will meet a similar fate.

Either that or one similar to the heretofore unknown Cunningham brother, who went upstairs and promptly disappeared.


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I dunno, looks like a decent movie, but if it makes Amby feel better I can have my kids cock punch a bunch of people as we leave.

Edit: huh, I would've thought the censor would catch that. Too late now, it's already been established.


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quibblemuch wrote:
Is his name, by chance, Cousin Oliver?

I'm sure he will meet a similar fate.

Either that or the heretofore unknown Cunningham brother, who went upstairs and promptly disappeared.

Chuck shall come again, to judge the living and the dead.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I dunno, looks like a decent movie, but if it makes Amby feel better I can have my kids cock punch a bunch of people as we leave.

If you could put that on YouTube, it would also make me feel better.


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captain yesterday wrote:

I dunno, looks like a decent movie, but if it makes Amby feel better I can have my kids cock punch a bunch of people as we leave.

Edit: huh, I would've thought the censor would catch that. Too late now, it's already been established.

Train them, Amby. They are the next generation of c*ckpunchers.


Freehold DM wrote:
Train them, Amby. They are the next generation of c*ckpunchers.

Why are people punching Chuck? HE IS THE OCCULTED MAHDI OF 1950s WISCONSIN!

EDIT: It has been pointed out to me that the asterisk probably doesn't stand for "hu". My bad.


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captain yesterday wrote:

I dunno, looks like a decent movie, but if it makes Amby feel better I can have my kids cock punch a bunch of people as we leave.

Edit: huh, I would've thought the censor would catch that. Too late now, it's already been established.

Train them, Amby. They are the next generation of c*ckpunchers.

I wanna be the very best

Like no one ever was
To find young C*ckpunchers is my real test
To train them to hate fridging is my cause

I will travel across the cinemas
Searching far and wide
Teach C*ckpunchers to understand
The power that's inside


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YEEEEEAAAAAHHH!!

I may have just gotten so fired up, I went on a c*ckpunching spree. The other coffee shop patrons are stunned and appalled.


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A Christmas present idea for Amby.


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I know this seems humorous, and I have only really encouraged it by letting it go on, but I'm really not anti-Man or anti-cock. I just want better representation for women (and other minorities) in American/Western media. Me wanting that in a blockbuster summer comic book movie, especially something built on Snyder's and Ayer's foundation, seems beyond Quixotic. But not only do the audiences watching this film deserve better, these characters with decades of rich legacies deserve better.

And Superman isn't supposed to be the dark, brooding, self-centered guy in these films. I dearly miss the hopeful, best-in-all-of-us symbol that the Donner films offered. I think we need that kind of inspiration and reminder of what was good and what we need to strive for. I know that's the image this new trailer and the marketing is trying to spin, but this Superman isn't that; if he is supposed to become that, then he damn well needs to earn it and do the work. Maybe the Whedon reshoots will help steer it that way, or maybe they're just trying to make the film less awful. All the kids who are growing up seeing this Superman, and these heroes, as their versions deserve so much better.


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I love comicbooks, but even as I child I thought the idea of Superman being an inspirational role model was kind of stupid. I mean, even the most light-hearted versions of Superman solved most of his problems through violence and superhuman abilities. Maybe I just had a boring, unimaginative childhood but my main hero growing up that inspired me was my older brother who realistically solved his problems with hard work and setting reasonable goals for himself.

Oh, and the Scooby Gang were big heroes of mine growing up. They taught that me magical monsters were BS, that scepticism and reason were vital to understanding the world, and that the villains of the world were usually rich a@*&*+! land developers.

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:


And Superman isn't supposed to be the dark, brooding, self-centered guy in these films. I dearly miss the hopeful, best-in-all-of-us symbol that the Donner films offered. I think we need that kind of inspiration and reminder of what was good and what we need to strive for. I know that's the image this new trailer and the marketing is trying to spin, but this Superman isn't that; if he is supposed to become that, then he damn well needs to earn it and do the work. Maybe the Whedon reshoots will help steer it that way, or maybe they're just trying to make the film less awful. All the kids who are growing up seeing this Superman, and these heroes, as their versions deserve so much better.

YES THIS ALL

The trailer line about Superman being a inspiration to do better is really odd, and I did not recognize the Superman from MoS or BvS anywhere. I want to see Henry Cavill be the Superman he can be. I love Henry Cavill, he is a good actor, but he needs to step up his game and writers and directors should do as well. Superman means something to people. It must be weird for him to play the most iconic and beloved superhero ever and get critized, only to see a TV actor play the same role in CW series and do it better and be praised. I really, really hope that Geoff Johns (now heading the whole DCEU thingy) sees that the Superman from before did not work, and that changes must be made in order to make everyone once again love Superman.


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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

I know this seems humorous, and I have only really encouraged it by letting it go on, but I'm really not anti-Man or anti-cock. I just want better representation for women (and other minorities) in American/Western media. Me wanting that in a blockbuster summer comic book movie, especially something built on Snyder's and Ayer's foundation, seems beyond Quixotic. But not only do the audiences watching this film deserve better, these characters with decades of rich legacies deserve better.

And Superman isn't supposed to be the dark, brooding, self-centered guy in these films. I dearly miss the hopeful, best-in-all-of-us symbol that the Donner films offered. I think we need that kind of inspiration and reminder of what was good and what we need to strive for. I know that's the image this new trailer and the marketing is trying to spin, but this Superman isn't that; if he is supposed to become that, then he damn well needs to earn it and do the work. Maybe the Whedon reshoots will help steer it that way, or maybe they're just trying to make the film less awful. All the kids who are growing up seeing this Superman, and these heroes, as their versions deserve so much better.

I would agree with this more if Superman's power set wasn't so out there. Nothing much can stop him, and the movies take full advantage of this, to the point that I find most of his movies fly-around-the-earth-backwards-to-reverse-time/throw-mysterious-shield-to-s aran-wrap-foe level farcical. I liked Man of Steel if only because there was an actual threat, and Clark's life wasn't perfect. With respect to what you refer to, I find that only in the animated series, which I enjoyed greatly.


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I find your "Superman" to be unrecognizable!

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quibblemuch wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Train them, Amby. They are the next generation of c*ckpunchers.

Why are people punching Chuck? HE IS THE OCCULTED MAHDI OF 1950s WISCONSIN!

EDIT: It has been pointed out to me that the asterisk probably doesn't stand for "hu". My bad.

I'm just puzzled at all this naked aggression towards roosters. Did one wake you up this morning while you were trying to sleep in? He's just doing his job! Don't be hating!

As for Superman, he just needs to smile more. If I had his powers, damn right I'd be smiling all the time. Just flying around, free as a bird. No need for a job, since I can crush coal into diamonds or spot veins of gold deep within the earth and excavate them by hand. Smiling all the while. Chris Reeves could smile. Brandon Routh could smile. (Tom Welling, well, he could clench his jaw and look determined, yet somehow also confused around the puppy-dog eyes, which is about as much acting as we could expect from him.) Henry Cavill needs to smile more.


Set wrote:
I'm just puzzled at all this naked aggression towards roosters. Did one wake you up this morning while you were trying to sleep in? He's just doing his job! Don't be hating!

Do you know what happens to a rooster when he gets punched by a chicken? The same thing that happens to everything else.


Set wrote:
quibblemuch wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Train them, Amby. They are the next generation of c*ckpunchers.

Why are people punching Chuck? HE IS THE OCCULTED MAHDI OF 1950s WISCONSIN!

EDIT: It has been pointed out to me that the asterisk probably doesn't stand for "hu". My bad.

I'm just puzzled at all this naked aggression towards roosters. Did one wake you up this morning while you were trying to sleep in? He's just doing his job! Don't be hating!

As for Superman, he just needs to smile more. If I had his powers, damn right I'd be smiling all the time. Just flying around, free as a bird. No need for a job, since I can crush coal into diamonds or spot veins of gold deep within the earth and excavate them by hand. Smiling all the while. Chris Reeves could smile. Brandon Routh could smile. (Tom Welling, well, he could clench his jaw and look determined, yet somehow also confused around the puppy-dog eyes, which is about as much acting as we could expect from him.) Henry Cavill needs to smile more.

Christopher Reeve is so damn handsome he makes me worry for my heterosexuality.


Freehold DM wrote:
quibblemuch wrote:
Is his name, by chance, Cousin Oliver?

I'm sure he will meet a similar fate.

Either that or one similar to the heretofore unknown Cunningham brother, who went upstairs and promptly disappeared.

"Heretofore unknown" isn't strictly correct; as far as I know Chuck didn't suddenly appear, only suddenly disappear. He was certainly in the Happy Days pilot (an episode of Love, American Style which featured Harold Gould as Howard Cunningham, and some entirely different girl as Joanie.)

Spoiler:
The pilot had been unsold, which is why it was slotted in as an episode of a different series. But based on the pilot, George Lucas cast Ron Howard in American Graffiti, which created more interest in the prospect of Happy Days as a show.


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
That's not my point. My point is not whether the DCMU Amazons would lose to Steppenwolf, but why is the f!cking "fight" even happening? They are totally withdrawn from the rest of the world and have remained hidden, even after the horrors of WWI and and everything that has come after. Using them now just to make Steppenwolf "look powerful" by killing them all is sh!tty weak-ass writing. If you want Steppenwolf to look powerful, have him land at an American military base near a major city and totally raze the area. Kill everyone, military and civilians, adults and children alike. But DC and the writers won't do something like that because of the criticism they took from flattening Metropolis while the ManBro of ManPain™ was busy getting his punching on. So they are instead going to kill off, or nearly so, the remaining Amazons... not for some noble cause or to close their character arc...

I kind of like it. At least based on the craptastic idea of Mother boxes which I have no particular love for in the first place. The idea that the Mother boxes have been around here forever and Darksied only showed interest now is dumb to begin with... But the immediate question I have is "why now?" "Where are the others?" Having them hidden on magical hidden islands and super advanced undersea kingdoms really works for me. Better then just laying in an old pyramid or something... It gives kind of an 'Odin's treasure vault' kind of feel to it.

I'm sure they'll find some way to screw it up with whatever happened to Cyborg and where his box came from... but first instinct of having the Amazons have one and the Atlanteans have the other while the rest of humanity don't even believe they or the magic god boxes exist... That just works for me purely on a plot level.

As fpr the amazon's? They have no plot arc. They're entire purpose was to save the world from Ares... and their daughter and super warrior did just that. Their entire being for existing has come full circle. Realistically whatever magic kept them young and hidden should have been broken and they rejoin the world at this point. Their mission is complete.

But yeah... As the only actually successfully enjoyed DC movie... trying to tie things in with the Amazons makes sense from a business standpoint too. All trying to tie their connected universe together... I wouldn't be surprised if something there ties in with the Batman solo film and Suicide Squad 2 also... They'll milk it till it's dead.

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Oh, there are many stories you could tell with amazons still. They don't have a strong mission in the comics these days, and yet writers can make compelling stories with them. Rucka did, Gail did and Rucka is still on it. There are good characters among them, that could be future allies, villains and anything between. I would love to see Themysciran Embassy, Io, Donna Troy, Alkyone, Circe and all the other Themysciran-linked characters.

Also there is the whole thing about first creating a female utopia that (especially female) audience fells in love and then using it as a sacrifical altar for next doomsday villain. That is bound to bite the franchise in the ass HARD.

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Rosgakori wrote:

Oh, there are many stories you could tell with amazons still. They don't have a strong mission in the comics these days, and yet writers can make compelling stories with them. Rucka did, Gail did and Rucka is still on it. There are good characters among them, that could be future allies, villains and anything between. I would love to see Themysciran Embassy, Io, Donna Troy, Alkyone, Circe and all the other Themysciran-linked characters.

Also there is the whole thing about first creating a female utopia that (especially female) audience fells in love and then using it as a sacrifical altar for next doomsday villain. That is bound to bite the franchise in the ass HARD.

"Hey, remember all those amazons from the last movie you all loved? We brought them back so we could kill them off!... wait, why are you all angry? We let you see the amazons again!"

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaah.


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Set wrote:
Henry Cavill needs to smile more.

If you haven't seen it yet, rent (or borrow from your local library) the 2015 Guy Ritchie-directed The Man from Uncle remake. It isn't a perfect film, and I never saw the original show to compare it to, but Cavill is quite charming, smiles, and has pretty good chemistry with both Armie Hammer and Alicia Vikander. He seems to be enjoying acting. It's a night-and-day difference from how they make him act as Supes.


Rysky wrote:
Rosgakori wrote:

Oh, there are many stories you could tell with amazons still. They don't have a strong mission in the comics these days, and yet writers can make compelling stories with them. Rucka did, Gail did and Rucka is still on it. There are good characters among them, that could be future allies, villains and anything between. I would love to see Themysciran Embassy, Io, Donna Troy, Alkyone, Circe and all the other Themysciran-linked characters.

Also there is the whole thing about first creating a female utopia that (especially female) audience fells in love and then using it as a sacrifical altar for next doomsday villain. That is bound to bite the franchise in the ass HARD.

"Hey, remember all those amazons from the last movie you all loved? We brought them back so we could kill them off!... wait, why are you all angry? We let you see the amazons again!"

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaah.

To be fair, there basically the only group of people in the DC universe whose deaths might actually get an emotional reaction from audiences. Destroying another city of random civilians would probably do nothing but make people yawn and roll their eyes.

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Delightful wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Rosgakori wrote:

Oh, there are many stories you could tell with amazons still. They don't have a strong mission in the comics these days, and yet writers can make compelling stories with them. Rucka did, Gail did and Rucka is still on it. There are good characters among them, that could be future allies, villains and anything between. I would love to see Themysciran Embassy, Io, Donna Troy, Alkyone, Circe and all the other Themysciran-linked characters.

Also there is the whole thing about first creating a female utopia that (especially female) audience fells in love and then using it as a sacrifical altar for next doomsday villain. That is bound to bite the franchise in the ass HARD.

"Hey, remember all those amazons from the last movie you all loved? We brought them back so we could kill them off!... wait, why are you all angry? We let you see the amazons again!"

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaah.

To be fair, there basically the only group of people in the DC universe whose deaths might actually get an emotional reaction from audiences. Destroying another city of random civilians would probably do nothing but make people yawn and roll their eyes.

*blink*

*blink*

Wat


Rysky wrote:
Delightful wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Rosgakori wrote:

Oh, there are many stories you could tell with amazons still. They don't have a strong mission in the comics these days, and yet writers can make compelling stories with them. Rucka did, Gail did and Rucka is still on it. There are good characters among them, that could be future allies, villains and anything between. I would love to see Themysciran Embassy, Io, Donna Troy, Alkyone, Circe and all the other Themysciran-linked characters.

Also there is the whole thing about first creating a female utopia that (especially female) audience fells in love and then using it as a sacrifical altar for next doomsday villain. That is bound to bite the franchise in the ass HARD.

"Hey, remember all those amazons from the last movie you all loved? We brought them back so we could kill them off!... wait, why are you all angry? We let you see the amazons again!"

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaah.

To be fair, there basically the only group of people in the DC universe whose deaths might actually get an emotional reaction from audiences. Destroying another city of random civilians would probably do nothing but make people yawn and roll their eyes.

*blink*

*blink*

Wat

Oh, I'd love to explain myself, Rysky.

The DC films haven't exactly been great when it comes to emotionally investing people in their heroes actually saving the world is all. Wonder Woman and the amazons are currently the only characters whose deaths would actually move me emotionally. I don't actually want them to die but if the directors wanted to make me give a damn about Steppenwolf as a threat or villian the amazons deaths and the impact that would have on Diana would do it. It's cliched film writing and fridging but that's what happens when your cinematic universe only has one good film and decent character. Then again, it's possible that the Justice League film might do something great and make me care that Steppenwolf is killing random nameless civilians and doing nefarious things without a bunch of amazons being fridged. Here's to hoping.

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
If you haven't seen it yet, rent (or borrow from your local library) the 2015 Guy Ritchie-directed The Man from Uncle remake.

Oh, that was a fun movie. I wish they'd cast a Russian actress for Alicia Vikander's part, if only because then they could have a Brit playing an American, an American playing a Russian, and a Russian playing a Brit. But she's a Swede, so that ruins the joke. :)


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Okay.

We look at Transformers (the first Bay one, haven't seen any of the others) and we see almost straight out of the box a well-supplied and equipped military base get stomped.

Immediately it goes from "This is a kid's movie" to "Man, this is gonna be rough!"

I can't see the same sort of investment happening by killing off a bunch of women warriors (even if it is being done because they are complete bad-asses). In fact, it'll detract from the picture 'They had to go after women because there aren't any male targets worth their time?'

I wasn't really having it on my list of 'must-see' shows, but recent advertisement has pushed it off my 'buy it on DvD or watch on demand' type lists.

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