Companion Figurine (classes without AC or Familiar)


Rules Questions

Grand Lodge

If a class without these class features takes this feat do they just have a first level companion? Does it level? The familiars would still have some scaling HP BAB etc.

Maybe it scales because it is balanced by needing to pay money and having limited access to the animal?

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Benefit: You may select the creature summoned by your figurine of wondrous power as an animal companion or familiar, or as appropriate. The figurine has the standard abilities of a familiar or animal companion of its type, plus additional abilities related to its figurine type (see below). The main advantage of this is that if your familiar or companion is killed in creature form, it merely reverts to statue form and can be used again later. The following standard figurines are available as animal companions (C) or familiars (F).

Ebony Fly (C):
Golden Lions (C):
Ivory Goats (C):
Marble Elephant (C):
Serpentine Owl (C, F):
Silver Raven (C, F):

While the figurine is active, you and the active figurine gain all the normal benefits of having a companion creature; for example, a wizard with a silver raven familiar gains a +3 bonus on Appraise checks, the raven can speak one language, and so on. While the figure is inactive, you gain none of these benefits but are not otherwise hampered by its inert state (as if the creature were out of range but not dead). The usable duration of the companion figurine doubles; for example, an ebony fly is normally usable up to three times per week for up to 12 hours per use, but as a companion creature you may use it up to six times per week for up to 12 hours per use. The figurine is still a magic item and is subject to effects like antimagic field and dispel magic that affect magic items; it uses its caster level or your own, whichever is greater.


what is the pre-req?

Otherwise I'm going to say that the answer is no.

Grand Lodge

Prerequisites: Handle Animal 1 rank, own a figurine of wondrous power.

The reason it is unclear is that Stats for an AC for many of the creatures are worse than the bestiary stats. So if it does not scale your taking a feat to make a item worse.


The other problem with this is that figurines like the Ivory Goats have a fixed total amount of uses before they become non-magical. And others like goats and elephants don't have normal familliar creature analogs. This smells like a third party feat.

Grand Lodge

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/companion-figurine

Paizo and PFS legal


Grandlounge wrote:


http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/companion-figurine

Paizo and PFS legal

That section has A LOT of info you left out. Which makes one heck of a difference. So the answer appears to be yes you can.

You DO have to own the figurine before you can take this feat.
Nothing about this feat however changes what I said about the Ivory Goats though...still a fixed cap on the total amount of uses, I think it's 3 each.

Grand Lodge

Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
Grandlounge wrote:


http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/companion-figurine

Paizo and PFS legal

That section has A LOT of info you left out. Which makes one heck of a difference. So the answer appears to be yes you can.

You DO have to own the figurine before you can take this feat.
Nothing about this feat however changes what I said about the Ivory Goats though...still a fixed cap on the total amount of uses, I think it's 3 each.

The goats say nothing about becoming non-magical or limited use. The owl does but that is addressed in the feat.

I did not see anything in the specific statue text that helped clarify scaling. So, I left it out to focus on the RAW text. The rest of the text helps make inferences but I was hoping someone had a better RAW reading than I did. What text would you point to for scaling.

The best I see is

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you and the active figurine gain all the normal benefits of having a companion creature; for example, a wizard with a silver raven familiar gains a +3 bonus on Appraise checks, the raven can speak one language, and so on.

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