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So two quick questions, both have to do with using gauntlets:
1: Do gauntlets count as an unarmed strike for using Pummeling Style? The text for Gauntlets says this: "This metal glove lets you deal lethal damage rather than nonlethal damage with unarmed strikes. A strike with a gauntlet is otherwise considered an unarmed attack. The cost and weight given are for a single gauntlet. Medium and heavy armors (except breastplate) come with gauntlets. Your opponent cannot use a disarm action to disarm you of gauntlets."
However, Pummeling Style has this text: This ability works only with unarmed strikes, no matter what other abilities you might possess.
My second question is as follows: Does the shield bonus that you get from Shield Gauntlet Style only apply to the off-hand gauntlet? Suppose I were using Gauntlets instead of my raw fist, would I gain a +2 Shield Bonus?
The text for the style feat says this: "When using this style, if you begin your turn wearing a gauntlet or spiked gauntlet on your off hand, and you are not using that hand to hold or make attacks with any other weapons or shield, you gain a +1 shield bonus to AC."
I assume that means that the shield bonus only applies to the off-hand, which would be a bit disappointing, but would make sense.
And I guess I lied, as I have a third question, this time regarding the Shielded Gauntlet Master feat, which says "In addition, you add your gauntlet’s enhancement bonus to the shield bonus to AC granted by this feat as if it were a shield enhancement bonus."
Does this mean that any +1/+2/etc bonuses to the Gauntlet weapons applies as a shield bonus, and that you don't have to enchant it twice right?
I'm sorry if this seems long-winded, I just wanted these figured out before I got too far ahead of myself in character creation.
Gauntlets might be getting an Errata or FAQ here soon.
They are either Weapons or Unarmed attacks, but neither of those work for Pummeling style. Pummeling style is pretty clear that it's only and ever going to work with unarmed strikes.
You can't make any attacks with the gauntlet or hold anything with it. So there's no reason to say it's your "main hand" cause otherwise you couldn't use your main hand or your off hand. Because you only gain an off-hand by using your main hand.
Yes a +2 gauntlet will add to your shield so you don't have to upgrade twice. But the errata/faq might say they are unarmed attacks and thus can't be upgraded maybe?
Yeah, I figured it would be like that for Pummeling style, but the wording of the gauntlets themselves (and the fact that they're in the Unarmed Strikes section of the weapon tables) led me to believe that it would work. I really hope that Gauntlets get an FAQ soon, because that's really bugging me.
And as for your second point, it being off-hand or not could matter. If using just two gauntlets, it might be more advantageous to use a +5 gauntlet and in the other hand a +3 Flaming Ghost Touch Gauntlet, so you get a bigger shield bonus while still having a decent weapon.
Lastly, if an FAQ or Errata changes Gauntlets so that they are unarmed attacks and can't be upgraded, they'd also have to specify that the Gauntlets are only treated as unarmed attacks for that ruling, or else it'd make the Pummeling Style question even weirder.
Gauntlets are in the unarmed attack section, not unarmed strike section. Unarmed strikes are also in the unarmed attack section.
If using two gauntlets whenever it's your turn you choose how your allocating your attacks. So each turn you decide if you're having one be an off-hand and which it is. So for round 1 you can say the +5 is the off hand, then round 2 say it's the main hand.
Nope, even the secret Herolab "faq" doesn't do it. Gauntlets there are just clarified to be unarmed attacks and what that means. It doesn't do anything to let gauntlet unarmed attacks be unarmed strikes for Pummeling.
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Wearing a gauntlet gives you the ability to deal lethal when you use your other unarmed strike weapon attack.
Otherwise it is an unarmed attack (a 20th level human monk deals 1d3) that provokes an attack of opportunity and gains any bonuses that add to gauntlet attacks for example a +2 gauntlet would add 2 to attacks and damage, weapon focus gauntlet would att 1 to attacks, Etc.
You also can't be disarmed.
Benefit: This metal glove lets you deal lethal damage rather than nonlethal damage with unarmed strikes. A strike with a gauntlet is otherwise considered an unarmed attack. Your opponent cannot use a disarm action to disarm you of gauntlets.
Gauntlets are Martial Weapons. Yes, you deal "lethal unarmed strike damage" (1d4) but you are still making an attack with a Gauntlet, not an unarmed strike. A monk deals way more damage with unarmed strikes than other classes but if he were to use a gauntlet he would deal gauntlet damage. You can magically enchant a gauntlet as any other weapon, which applies to attacks made with that gauntlet.
A Gauntlet makes your unarmed strike lethal 1d3 (for Medium creatures) but still count as unarmed strikes and they fall in the Unarmed/Simple weapon group.
Spiked Gauntlets (1d4) are Martial Weapons and fall in the Light Melee Weapons category and is treated like a weapon that you are armed with.
If a spiked gauntlet is a Martial Weapon, which it is, I don't see why it couldn't be enchanted. There are plenty of magic gauntlets (Bone-Breaker Gauntlets) out there. The only part that confuses me is that they are listed as Hand Slot Wondrous Items instead of Magic Weapons...