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Everyman Gaming, in partnership with Rogue Genius Games, is proud to present the Dynastic Races Compendium! The Dynastic Races Compendium is designed to be the go-to resource for campaign flavor and PC mechanics for a small number of "dynastic" races, which consist of kitsune, nagaji, samsarans, and wayangs. In addition to covering traditional avenues like archetypes and feats, we want to focus in on the culture, biology, and psychology of these races in order to create a product like none that has ever existed for these races.
This book compiles and expands upon the content from Everyman Gaming's Kitsune Compendium and Samsaran Compendium products, and enough new and old material for these races has been developed that the kitsune and samsaran chapters in this book are fully written, and the kitsune chapter is fully illustrated. Because of the expense involved in giving these races the illustrative treatment they deserve, we've come to Kickstarter to ask fans old and new alike to help us in our quest to make the best race guide for these races that anyone's ever seen!
Some basics:
Our kickstarter will be running from Wednesday, June 1st to Wednesday, June 30th. If you have any questions, feel free to ask them below. We hope to see you there tomorrow!
Alex Augunas
Everyman Gaming, LLC
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*marks off 'Alex says kitsune' on 3pp bingo*
Best of luck, by the by!
Aaaaaand we're live! [url="http://kck.st/1TQjndD"]You can also check out our Facebook Event Page for Social Media Icons to help us support and grow our Kickstarter.
*marks off 'Alex says kitsune' on 3pp bingo*
Best of luck, by the by!
To be fair, if whomever designed your BINGO card made that any space other than the free space, they weren't a very good game card designer. :-P
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I'm going to have to join in on that kickstarter when I have a chance!
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I'm going to have to join in on that kickstarter when I have a chance!
Search your heart, you know you must!
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I'm going to have to join in on that kickstarter when I have a chance!Search your heart, you know you must!
Congratulations!
I'm going to have to join in on that kickstarter when I have a chance!Search your heart, you know you must!
Done ;)
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Yeah, I knew I was going to hop on board, your kitsune and samsaran expansions were great, though I hope that adding on tengu (and perhaps oriental-themed ratfolk) will be a stretch goal down the line.
Both are on the stretch goal list, but they're pretty high up. (Tengu is on the next page, however!)
The races on the table are tengu, catfolk, rat folk, vanaras, and vishkanyas.
Just backed. I couldn't resist grabbing the bundle that would let me pick up your whole catalog. I really like the art style you use for your books, and I've been contemplating picking up some of your stuff for awhile. (I've always been a fan of kitsune. Samsarans look interesting, and given the right idea I'd probably play a nagaji.)
Thank you!
I'm in talks with Owen about how many bundles I can offer through the Kickstarter; it's my product, but the work of delivering said product would ultimately fall on Rogue Genius Games, specifically LJ. So we'll see how many more people can grab what truly is an awesome deal.
Woo! Awesome first 24 hours! :D
There is a part of me that wanted to get in on the Dynastic Hero tier, but luckily for my wallet some other people grabbed that one first. I wonder how many of those character illustrations will be kitsune, lol.
There is a part of me that wanted to get in on the Dynastic Hero tier, but luckily for my wallet some other people grabbed that one first. I wonder how many of those character illustrations will be kitsune, lol.
Hopefully not TOO many. Regardless of what they choose, I won't let this book to be "Kitsune and friends." :-P
But hey! If you still want a character illustration, the $200 reward is still available. :D
But hey! If you still want a character illustration, the $200 reward is still available. :D
I'll leave that one for someone who is a bit richer than me. I don't feel that strong of a need to immortalize my Mythic Kitsune Sorcerer ;)
So, it looks like the Kickstarter is getting about $100-$200 a day currently? If that keeps up it should hit the goal and most of the stretch goals :D
So, it looks like the Kickstarter is getting about $100-$200 a day currently? If that keeps up it should hit the goal and most of the stretch goals :D
Hopefully! Owen and I still have a few more avenues to try to spread the word. And our backers helping us to spread the word is also super helpful.
There is a part of me that wanted to get in on the Dynastic Hero tier, but luckily for my wallet some other people grabbed that one first. I wonder how many of those character illustrations will be kitsune, lol.Hopefully not TOO many. Regardless of what they choose, I won't let this book to be "Kitsune and friends." :-P
But hey! If you still want a character illustration, the $200 reward is still available. :D
Historically, my attempts to sell character art insertions failed hardcore, though there was tons of traction for the creation of additional book content.
Historically, my attempts to sell character art insertions failed hardcore, though there was tons of traction for the creation of additional book content.There is a part of me that wanted to get in on the Dynastic Hero tier, but luckily for my wallet some other people grabbed that one first. I wonder how many of those character illustrations will be kitsune, lol.Hopefully not TOO many. Regardless of what they choose, I won't let this book to be "Kitsune and friends." :-P
But hey! If you still want a character illustration, the $200 reward is still available. :D
I've sold out of all but one of my slots (the one tied to the super expensive tier). I guess people really just want to see their kitsune/nagaji/samsaran/wayang characters in the big book about those races.
Creeping up on 75%! You're on track for a truly killer first week! :D
I hope you guys have an awesomely successful KS!!
Yay, $3000 even!
So, Alex, care to give us any teasers about what sort of new things might be going into the book? ;)
I know Starfinder is over a year out, but any chance of a Kitsuuuuuunes innnn Spaaaaace! stretch goal?
I hope you guys have an awesomely successful KS!!
We're doing what we can!
Yay, $3000 even!
So, Alex, care to give us any teasers about what sort of new things might be going into the book? ;)
Sure!
The culture section is a lot longer has about four more spreads of information about things like family life. I also want to add a special article for each race about something that makes it unique, but that's a stretch goal.
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I know Starfinder is over a year out, but any chance of a Kitsuuuuuunes innnn Spaaaaace! stretch goal?
Not sure! Gotta see the OGL for Starfinder first. People joked with me about it at the banquet (star foxes lol)," and I joked with Sutter about it, but I'm sort of holding my excitement until my curiosity is a bit more sated.
Yay, $3000 even!
So, Alex, care to give us any teasers about what sort of new things might be going into the book? ;)
Sure!
The culture section is a lot longer has about four more spreads of information about things like family life. I also want to add a special article for each race about something that makes it unique, but that's a stretch goal.
Sounds cool! There are definitely a lot of questions about the family lives of some of these races. Especially since some of them have a higher than normal chance of not being just among their own kind, such as Samsaran and Kitsune.
I hope I get to use some of this to revise my one kitsune character. Her color scheme is a bit different. She's based on a different fox than the red most kitsune art goes for. (Silver fox, to reflect the fact she's a ninja and red doesn't really work with stealth.)
"Silver fox" kitsune are in the Dynastic Races Compendium as one of the ethnicities; they're called blackfurs, and they usually result from some sort of weird taint in the kitsune's bloodline, such as oni blood or shadow essence or something peculiar.
You can see a picture of one on our latest update on the Kickstarter page.
I hope I get to use some of this to revise my one kitsune character. Her color scheme is a bit different. She's based on a different fox than the red most kitsune art goes for. (Silver fox, to reflect the fact she's a ninja and red doesn't really work with stealth.)"Silver fox" kitsune are in the Dynastic Races Compendium as one of the ethnicities; they're called blackfurs, and they usually result from some sort of weird taint in the kitsune's bloodline, such as oni blood or shadow essence or something peculiar.
You can see a picture of one on our latest update on the Kickstarter page.
I like the art of the Arctic and 'Fennec' kitsune.
I also like the idea that when kitsune and humans have kids together, the child is always another kitsune. It gives me an idea for how a small group of kitsune could (slowly, over a couple of generations) 'take over' a human community by breeding with the humans until there's nothing but kitsune left.
Cool kickstarter update. Not sure if I am a fan of the "no half-kitsune" thing since it clashes with various Japanese legends. It is still cool to see that the question is being addressed though ;)
On a different subject: I am a little worried that part of the reason why things are slowing down is because everyone seems to want the 'limited' pledge tiers. Hmmm.
Just curious, I know that you can't edit existing pledge tiers, but can you add new ones? I think if you created a tier that combined the mass of free PDFs from the "Dynastic Everybundle" with the POD copies of the Adventures books some people would go for those.
Well, kitsune don't completely fit various Japanese legends in the first place, given their general nature...Paizo generally seems to be going for the concept that those legends are distortions of the true nature of kitsune and provide reasons that those misunderstandings arose in the first place. So it's not like it doesn't make sense as an approach.
Yea, it is true that Pathfinder kitsune don't really fit with the legends. If they did, their natural form would be like a normal fox... which would cause all sorts of gear related issues because items can't merge with you when you're returning to your natural form. I just have a soft spot for basing characters on legends and stories, so I always fall back to that sort of stuff, lol.
I might have to take a look at that book you mentioned, but it sounds like they change the kitsune too much for it to be useful in my games :(
I may as well divert the discussion away from the kitsune a bit: I'm also interested in the Nagaji section as well. I have been kind of ignoring them for a while because they aren't dragonkin and naga are weird (and aberrations for some reason?). If they got a more interesting treatment though I would probably play one.
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I hope I get to use some of this to revise my one kitsune character. Her color scheme is a bit different. She's based on a different fox than the red most kitsune art goes for. (Silver fox, to reflect the fact she's a ninja and red doesn't really work with stealth.)"Silver fox" kitsune are in the Dynastic Races Compendium as one of the ethnicities; they're called blackfurs, and they usually result from some sort of weird taint in the kitsune's bloodline, such as oni blood or shadow essence or something peculiar.
You can see a picture of one on our latest update on the Kickstarter page.
I like the art of the Arctic and 'Fennec' kitsune.
I also like the idea that when kitsune and humans have kids together, the child is always another kitsune. It gives me an idea for how a small group of kitsune could (slowly, over a couple of generations) 'take over' a human community by breeding with the humans until there's nothing but kitsune left.
And that idea is VERY important because it explains why humans generally don't like kitsune and/or fear them.
(Generally, however, kitsune don't "take over" human settlements. Most don't really care about social power or prestige, and are more interested in themselves. As a matter of fact, most kitsune view a "lust for power" mentality as a stereotypical trait for a domesticated kitusne, because its a very human outlook. And kitsune try very hard to pretend to be human while not actually being like humans themselves.)
Well, kitsune don't completely fit various Japanese legends in the first place, given their general nature...Paizo generally seems to be going for the concept that those legends are distortions of the true nature of kitsune and provide reasons that those misunderstandings arose in the first place. So it's not like it doesn't make sense as an approach.Yea, it is true that Pathfinder kitsune don't really fit with the legends. If they did, their natural form would be like a normal fox... which would cause all sorts of gear related issues because items can't merge with you when you're returning to your natural form. I just have a soft spot for basing characters on legends and stories, so I always fall back to that sort of stuff, lol.
I'm a big fan of legends too, and I thought heavily about it before I wrote the lore. Saying, "No" to half-kitsune does have a number of benefits, however.
First, it makes it so I don't have to write a new race.
Second, it makes kitsune unique, because virtually anything else that can proliferate with humans does make half-races.
Third, it provides good story reasons for kitsune to be motivated to hide their identities, which is the fundamental core of the race. (You're a shapeshifter who hides among humans.)
Personally, I would have (cheated) handled half-kitsune just by creating some human racial traits ;)
One amusing fact: this kills one of my theories about where kitsune came from in the pathfinder world. I had a theory that kitsune were actually half-breeds between humans and some sort of spirit creature or kami. A true kitsune so to speak. But their bloodlines don't weaken, so I guess that isn't possible.
Well, remember that this doesn't have to be canonical...it's a third party supplement, after all. Mind you, I expect it will be a good resource for people wanting to make characters of these races - I wouldn't be supporting it otherwise! - but you can certainly choose to tweak things in your own games, after all! And it's not like your concept is necessarily impossible, it could be that the kami in question's spiritual genetics are just too powerful, and continue to overwhelm human genetics...Personally, I would have (cheated) handled half-kitsune just by creating some human racial traits ;)
One amusing fact: this kills one of my theories about where kitsune came from in the pathfinder world. I had a theory that kitsune were actually half-breeds between humans and some sort of spirit creature or kami. A true kitsune so to speak. But their bloodlines don't weaken, so I guess that isn't possible.
This is true, but just keep in mind that Alex is *also* probably writing the Kitsune section of the next Player's Companion that is going to talk about them. I wouldn't be surprised if some of this stuff sneaks into that book as well and becomes official. Even if it didn't, getting to write official material gives additional legitimacy to your 3rd party material ;)
Personally, I would have (cheated) handled half-kitsune just by creating some human racial traits ;)
One amusing fact: this kills one of my theories about where kitsune came from in the pathfinder world. I had a theory that kitsune were actually half-breeds between humans and some sort of spirit creature or kami. A true kitsune so to speak. But their bloodlines don't weaken, so I guess that isn't possible.
I don't know if we'll ever get a real answer in the context of 1PP, but all signs in Pathfinder certainly point to kitsune and kami having some sort of relationship with one another. And while I'm certainly the biggest fan of kitsune out of all of the Paizo freelancers, I'm certainly not in any position to have my thoughts on them be seen as "always true" or whatever.
So naturally, you're welcome to do what you will in your home games; this book just won't support that one, teeny little detail that only appears maybe once or twice in the whole product.
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And it's not like your concept is necessarily impossible, it could be that the kami in question's spiritual genetics are just too powerful, and continue to overwhelm human genetics...
While I never say that its 100% kami in the book, this is basically my logic. That kitsune genetics basically "assimilate" human genetics into their human forms. So a kitsune with a human parent has a much higher chance of having physical traits that reflect her human parent as compared to her kitsune parent. I saw it was a survival mechanism that allows kitsune to quickly incorporate themselves into new human populations in a few generations.
This is true, but just keep in mind that Alex is *also* probably writing the Kitsune section of the next Player's Companion that is going to talk about them. I wouldn't be surprised if some of this stuff sneaks into that book as well and becomes official. Even if it didn't, getting to write official material gives additional legitimacy to your 3rd party material ;)
If I *was* writing that section, I would have a Paizo developer making sure anything I wrote was OK for Pathfinder canon. Freelancers don't design in a bubble. ^_^
This is true, but just keep in mind that Alex is *also* probably writing the Kitsune section of the next Player's Companion that is going to talk about them. I wouldn't be surprised if some of this stuff sneaks into that book as well and becomes official. Even if it didn't, getting to write official material gives additional legitimacy to your 3rd party material ;)If I *was* writing that section, I would have a Paizo developer making sure anything I wrote was OK for Pathfinder canon. Freelancers don't design in a bubble. ^_^
Oh, of course not. I guess what I meant was that *if* you were writing that section, it would make it less likely that anything you released on your own afterwards would conflict with it. ;)
I see that you added a bunch of new pledge tiers. I'm going to have to take a look at those.
Some good stuff has been added to the pledge tiers, though the Dynastic Everybundle definitely looks like it is still the most efficient one for me. None of the other tiers seem to have the "Get Every PDF So Far" thing going on, lol.
Dynastic Sovereign for all the printed versions is tempting though, even if I already have Ultimate Charisma. No pdfs mentioned for that one though? I'm guessing that was just an oversight.
Some good stuff has been added to the pledge tiers, though the Dynastic Everybundle definitely looks like it is still the most efficient one for me. None of the other tiers seem to have the "Get Every PDF So Far" thing going on, lol.
Dynastic Sovereign for all the printed versions is tempting though, even if I already have Ultimate Charisma. No pdfs mentioned for that one though? I'm guessing that was just an oversight.
Yup, that's an error. Dynastic Sovereign gets you EVERYTHING.
I've updated the description to include PDFs.
This will doubtless be a dumb question, but I know very little about Kickstarter: can you give money more than once to the same project? Say, $10 one week and then $10 more the next for a total of $20 in support?
Also, does the money get taken from you every month like with Patreon, or only once?