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Does the limbs evolution affect the numbers of legs for the purposes of carry weight?
Or is this strictly determined by the base form, regardless of how many limbs (legs) evolutions are applied?
Example, bipedal base form eidolon is given an extra Limbs (legs) evolution for 2 points from their pool. They now have 4 legs (bipedal starts with 1 pair).
As far as I can tell, the base form remains bipedal, despite the increase in legs. Nothing in the evolution indicates that it increases carry weight nor does it change the base form, so I'm inclined to ignore the actual limbs in favor of the base form, but its really grey. Thoughts?
This is for PFS, if that matters.
I'll admit that I'm not the foremost expert on what is and is not PFS legal, but I'd assume that if it specifically is defined as bipedal or quadrupedal, the number of legs isn't going to change carry weight (although it will change other effects that specify they change based on number of pairs of legs, such as CMD versus trips).
If it was based on leg number, you could viably have a quadrupedal creature's weight capacity increase by increasing its legs from four two six, or decrease it by giving it a predisposition for standing bipedally.
Granted, if adding a pair of legs did qualify a creature as quadrupedal, it'd open up a lot more options for a pouncing eidolon. But that's one of the reasons I prefer baseline summoner to unchained.
My guess is that it won't affect the weight capacity. There's nothing in the rules language to suggest that a biped with extra legs becomes a quadruped. Also the ramifications for subtypes vs base forms is somewhat complex.
As far as what was intended, a bipedal creature has a vertical backbone, while a quadruped has a horizontal backbone. I think if you add a second pair of legs to a biped you just get a strange creature with a vertical backbone sat on top of a double pelvis with four legs hanging off them and hence no capacity increase.
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As far as what was intended, a bipedal creature has a vertical backbone, while a quadruped has a horizontal backbone. I think if you add a second pair of legs to a biped you just get a strange creature with a vertical backbone sat on top of a double pelvis with four legs hanging off them and hence no capacity increase.
See, this is another grey area, as it really mentions nothing regarding posture. You could be like one of those dinosaurs, where their posture is basically bipedal with a horizontal posture, using a tail (or something else) for a counter weight.
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Also, I'm not suggesting it would change the base form, as it's pretty clear that doesn't change. I am asking if adding legs alters the number of legs in regard to carry weight:
Quadrupeds can carry heavier loads than bipeds can. Multiply the values corresponding to the creature's Strength score from Table: Carrying Capacity by the appropriate modifier, as follows: Fine ×1/4, Diminutive ×1/2, Tiny ×3/4, Small ×1, Medium ×1-1/2, Large ×3, Huge ×6, Gargantuan ×12, Colossal ×24.
Is a bipedal base form with a second pair of legs considered a quadruped in regard to carry weight? Or are they bipedal without regard to the number of limbs (legs) evolution acquired?