Lethal Grace and Fist of the Avenger.

[Godferret]

Both of the above Vigilante talents add (with qualifications) half of an Avenger Vigilante's level to damage. One of them effects finessed weapons when you use strength for damage, the other effects unarmed strikes and gauntlets. You could conceivably have both talents; if you did, would their effect stack when finessing your unarmed strike and using strength for damage?

I know that two abilities that add the same ability score bonus don't stack (ala Warpriest/Monk), but I couldn't figure out if the rule is the same for abilities that add your level (or a fraction thereof). Intuitively it seems that the same rule would apply, but I figured it was worth asking the forum. Thank you in advance for any help you can offer.

**Edited to correct a terminology error.

[Vaellen]

They should stack. Other abilities that add damage to level stack so these should too.

[Godferret]

Vaellen wrote:

They should stack. Other abilities that add damage to level stack so these should too.

Thank you for your quick response. That's good to know.

[whew]

This does look like the kind of thing that might get an errata. The designers may consider the two talents to be variant versions of the same thing, especially if they forgot about Boar Style.

[Protoman]

Just to note Fist of the Avenger does specify "fist or a gauntlet", not simply any unarmed strikes. With the precedent of unchained monk's style strikes needing a specific body part for the weapon, it'll matter if a vigilante's hands are full/tied up and wanting to benefit from Fist of the Avenger.

[Imbicatus]

Protoman wrote:

Just to note Fist of the Avenger does specify "fist or a gauntlet", not simply any unarmed strikes. With the precedent of unchained monk's style strikes needing a specific body part for the weapon, it'll matter if a vigilante's hands are full/tied up and wanting to benefit from Fist of the Avenger.

It's not the only thing that is limited to fists only. An Elemental Ascetic using elemental flurry has the same limitation. As more material is released, I expect to see more and more things locked down to a fist only instead of any unarmed strike, to limit things like Ascetic Style and FCT.